Overload of the Day

[Pops52]

Ouch!

 

[Pops52]

Photo 1965, truck transporting part of rock crusher on it's side. Going down the old
Lewiston grade aka "The Spiral Highway". Nothing but switchbacks dropping down
towards Lewiston/Clarkston on the Snake River. Many a wreck on this old highway
which is a scenic route these days.
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Too much “super” in the curve and not enough speed?

 

[Willie B]

The dump truck GVW is 56,000lbs. but I'm going to talk to someone else at the gravel pit. They moved the Cat for me before no problem. I'd imagine the CEO will still be working for the new owners so I'll try to talk to him. The gravel pit said they would help with things and I also need to make sure I can still keep stuff at the old property for 2 years or more as part of the written agreement. The CEO is a pretty nice guy. To hire someone to haul the Cat would be over $900! That's a lot of money to move it 15 miles!

I'm a little confused. I thought you were talking about a small truck, as in pickup.

 

[crane operator]

$900 sounds nuts. Any others around to get a quote from? Towing outfit?

That's only $650 in us dollars. I don't think that's outrageous. Going to have a truck and trailer tied up for 1/2 a day, by the time he kicks the tires, drives to Dave's old yard, loads ties down, and drives to the new place, and unloads. Then back to the shop, .

I know it sounds expensive Dave, but the flip side is, if you don't have license, insurance and plates, and someone is diddling around on their phone, it isn't going to be $900. They will sue you for everything you have.

 

[Truck Shop]

Too much “super” in the curve and not enough speed?

 

[Pops52]

Glad I had Jake’s !

 

[DMiller]

For seeming forever highways built as that. In Missouri call the Roller Coaster highways as swap Up to Down as well as Severe corners. Hwys 5&7 around Lake of the Oz typical to that.

 

[Truck Shop]

For seeming forever highways built as that.

Spiral Highway-Old Lewiston Grade averages 4.68% grade some areas 6.5, and is
8 miles long with 64 corners. Drops 2000 feet to Lewiston.

 

[Welder Dave]

That's only $650 in us dollars. I don't think that's outrageous. Going to have a truck and trailer tied up for 1/2 a day, by the time he kicks the tires, drives to Dave's old yard, loads ties down, and drives to the new place, and unloads. Then back to the shop, .

I know it sounds expensive Dave, but the flip side is, if you don't have license, insurance and plates, and someone is diddling around on their phone, it isn't going to be $900. They will sue you for everything you have.

I need to talk to the CEO of the gravel pit anyway so I don't think it will be difficult to get the Cat moved. There's also a loading ramp I need to move but it will fit on the same trailer as the Cat. The Cat will pick it up. I was only considering moving it myself as a last option. I only called one place just to get an idea and was shocked at the price but the guy did say the fuel charge really added to the cost and was likely to go up even higher. I was hoping to find a deck truck that could move it for maybe $350-$400. There is a farmer I now that's close that has a bunch of equipment and trucks. I think he might have a lowboy. That might be an option.

I wish I could have got an in-transit permit like I did when I bought the truck. Good for 7 days to move a vehicle from point A to point B and costs $24. Don't need an inspection or anything just have to have commercial insurance or an insurance company that does commercial insurance. I think the rules now require you to have commercial insurance on another vehicle. When I got the in-transit permit the insurance company I had for my pick up did commercial insurance and that was sufficient. To get the best rate the insurance broker used a company that doesn't do commercial insurance. It saves me quite a bit.

My insurance broker suggested I could sell the truck to a friend that has commercial insurance for a dollar and they could get an in-transit permit. Once it's moved, tear up the bill of sale. I can ask a friend if he has commercial insurance.

I still think there should be some kind of provision where if you stay below a certain speed (like 30 or 25 MPH like a tractor) and have a pilot car or two you should be able to do one time short distance moves with vehicles that don't have insurance. The road I need to move it on has very little traffic. If I moved it at the right time I doubt I'd see any other traffic. As was mentioned in the other thread there is some big and extra heavy farm equipment allowed on the roads that is way sketchier and dangerous than pulling a Cat behind a tandem dump truck. There's also technically legal vehicles on the road that shouldn't be.

 

[Welder Dave]

I'm a little confused. I thought you were talking about a small truck, as in pickup.

No, a heavy spec. tandem dump truck. I'd be slightly overweight for the trailer but the truck could take the extra hitch weight. It's got a heavy duty pintle hitch on it with I think an air cushion. There's like a brake pot behind it. Would only move the Cat myself as a last resort. I know a lot of people would just move it and it would be fine 99% of the time. It's the 1% I'm worried about if something odd happened or went wrong. Unfortunately there isn't a rural gravel road I could use. The distance is more than I'd just load it up and move it. If it was half the distance like 8 miles or I could go there on all back roads I'd be less worried about moving it myself. Wanted to get some opinions on what other people would do. I don't have boat loads of money. The money I have will be needed to upgrade the approach at the new property. I think it requires an $8000 deposit and I'm not sure what the development permit will cost. The rezoning application with help from a firm will be $18-$20,000. I'm only doing it because the property is perfect for dirt bike park. I see $$$$ signs when ever the sun is out. The property is sand and was dry 2 month's before anywhere else this spring. I could have had 100 riders a day on the weekends. Riders are itching to get back riding ASAP after a long winter. The endless waiting on the rezoning application is beyond frustrating.

 

[Welder Dave]

I didn't realize there's a gravel road off the main highway I could possibly use if I can't get ahold of the gravel pit or find someone more reasonable. Not ideal but off the beaten path with only about 4 farm yards in 8 or 9 miles. Would only have to about a mile on pavement.

 

[HarleyHappy]

While I understand the anxiety and the concerns, myself, I would have it chained down and moved already.
Way more scetchy stuff happening every day. Be as safe as you can and just move it.

 

[Welder Dave]

I know there's lots of sketchier stuff on the roads.

 

[Truck Shop]

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[Tony Wells]

We loaded this up the other day. They were just moving it across the yard, but it was putting the hurt on the truck and trailer.

It's a 25,000lb lathe.

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That's not a lathe. That's an OD grinder, and would be used on the bearing journals and/or tapers on the axles. Works much like a lathe, but not quite. Can't tell, but maybe a Landis.

 

[crane operator]

That's not a lathe. That's an OD grinder, and would be used on the bearing journals and/or tapers on the axles. Works much like a lathe, but not quite. Can't tell, but maybe a Landis.

Well I ain't no machinist. Just a lowly crane operator. My measurement device is my eyeball, or what I can walk off with steps. Thousandths? If I'm within a foot or two, that's close enough...

Its got motors that makes things go round and round on the bed. You boys call it what you want. Looks like a lathe to me.

 

[DDoug]

That's not a lathe. That's an OD grinder, and would be used on the bearing journals and/or tapers on the axles. Works much like a lathe, but not quite. Can't tell, but maybe a Landis.

Where is the grinding wheel ?

 

[Tony Wells]

@DDoug Grinding wheel on that type is behind the spindle, across from the operator. Hard to see on that machine. May have been removed. The control switchbox has been robbed, so either it's been converted to some other means, or perhaps stripped of parts. It's an oldie, so maybe taken out of service.

@crane operator Never met a lowly crane guy...just the proud ones. Hats off to you guys swinging real weight around. I get stuck on some toys and really don't like it when it gets over 40k

 

[Truck Shop]

Grinding wheel on that type is behind the spindle,

Cylindrical grinder, Landis seems a main manufacture. Similar to a crankshaft grinder except
much smaller grind wheel, I ran a Van Norman 448 manual years ago.

 

[DDoug]

@DDoug Grinding wheel on that type is behind the spindle, across from the operator. Hard to see on that machine. May have been removed. The control switchbox has been robbed, so either it's been converted to some other means, or perhaps stripped of parts. It's an oldie, so maybe taken out of service.

@crane operator Never met a lowly crane guy...just the proud ones. Hats off to you guys swinging real weight around. I get stuck on some toys and really don't like it when it gets over 40k

It is ?
On all the ones I have run they are.
However, I don't see the master table, should be twice as big as the moving table.

And I see (2) powered headstocks.

Like on the crank grinder I ran.

I still think it's a facing & centering machine, until more pictures show up.