Moving a Cat 15 miles

[Welder Dave]

This is exactly what I would do, probably on a Sunday morning. Your track loader + trailer probably weighs less than a load of gravel.

A little heavier. The loader has a quick backhoe and I'd guess weighs 21,000 to 22,000lbs. The trailer is probably at least 6500lbs. I'd be a little overweight on the trailer but the truck will handle more tongue weight. I put the loader on backhoe first.

 

[Deere500a]

Weight numbers are high 931 is around 7ton machine .15k & hoe is 3k total around 18k lbs.

 

[Welder Dave]

I also have a 4 in 1 bucket and 300lb. sprocket weights. 931B is heavier than earlier 931. I think without the hoe it's around 17,000lbs. Hoe is about 4000lbs. It's noticeably heavier than carrying 2 1000 gallon plastic tanks of water.

 

[Welder Dave]

Saw a brochure that lists the operating weight of a 931B at 16,500lbs. That's for an earlier model with 36 pad tracks. Mine has 37 pad tracks, 4 in 1 bucket with teeth, sprocket weights and a backhoe with a 30" bucket. Probably close to 18,000lbs. without the backhoe.

 

[Deere500a]

Cat doesn't show weight like Deere. Old 931 was 13k like said B got heavy 15300. Deere hoes for 350etc showed model 93 was #2700lbs & 9300 was #3300.

 

[Deere500a]

Cat's dipper looks like ol JD design hoes same as old Case E series hoe when the 416 hit the market

 

[Deere500a]

Looking at Deere 450 4/1 adds #1200 base & that includes over half that weight is extra counterweight. Your back door is covered as Jerry Reed said "get it done son"

 

[Welder Dave]

I read a base 931B with 36 pad tracks is 16,500lbs. operating weight. I have a later model with 37 pad tracks and a bunch of extra weight including slightly longer lift arms. The sprocket weights and 4 in 1 are over 1500lbs. extra. Originally had counterweighted idlers too but not sure if they're included in the backhoe weight. Then the backhoe that's close to 4000lbs. with a 30" bucket. I'm not sure why you're trying to tell me my machine isn't as heavy as I think. When I pulled it with an under powered 4 ton Hino I could tell it was considerably heavier than two 1000 gallon tanks full of water.

 

[Deere500a]

We both guessing weight not saying it's right reads high getting into 935/939 class for a 931b & 931B lgp wide track. Pull it with a 56gvw Ford will night & day to that Hino once you get that 9sd down

 

[Welder Dave]

I've got a brochure somewhere that lists the weight and the weight of extra add ons. I think even bucket teeth are extra. I know it's somewhere over 20,000lbs. I only moved it maybe 6-8 times and made sure to avoid scales. Some brochures list 12" pads as standard and mine are 14".

 

[IceHole]

A little heavier. The loader has a quick backhoe and I'd guess weighs 21,000 to 22,000lbs. The trailer is probably at least 6500lbs. I'd be a little overweight on the trailer but the truck will handle more tongue weight. I put the loader on backhoe first.

My 941B is around 25k lbs. Didn't think the 931 was about same. Mine has a 4 in 1 bucket, no backhoe.

 

[Welder Dave]

The loader without the backhoe is I'd guess around 17,500-18,000lbs. with the 4 in 1 bucket, 37 pad tracks and two 300lb. sprocket weights so still a fair bit lighter than a 941B. I think the backhoe is close to 4000lbs.

 

[suladas]

$1000 to move a 931 15 miles?? Holy Crap!! Just load her up early on a sunday morning and take it easy. Trust me there are people out on the road doing alot worse things than that all day every day.

This. Assuming the dump truck is in good shape mechanically I wouldn't hesitate at all. I pulled 18k behind mine numerous times with no trailer brakes and never thought twice, it pushed a tiny bit in a really hard stop.

 

[suladas]

That's a good point. I don't understand why you can't take an otherwise safe truck that's never used on the road for a short trip just to move it a new location. Even going no faster than 25 MPH with an escort vehicle behind you. It's safer than a lot of farm equipment moves done with sketchy equipment and poor or no brakes. I don't have commercial insurance so can't get an in-transit permit. Oddly when I bought the truck at auction I could get an in-transit permit to drive it that was good for 7 days. Didn't need an inspection or anything else. It had good working brakes and drove excellent except for me getting a crash course in how to shift a semi transmission. I was trying to shift at way too high of RPM. I watched some YouTube video's on how to shift a 9 speed and they helped, especially when they mentioned it can be easier not using the clutch.

You can legally move a truck and/or trailer without cvip as long as you aren't hauling anything.

 

[Welder Dave]

You can legally move a truck and/or trailer without cvip as long as you aren't hauling anything.

Yes but you still need an in-transit permit (temporary insurance coverage). There's a load licensing permit you can get for hauling something on a trailer in addition to the in-transit permit. The distance I need to move is just a little too much to just do it.

 

[suladas]

Yes but you still need an in-transit permit (temporary insurance coverage). There's a load licensing permit you can get for hauling something on a trailer in addition to the in-transit permit. The distance I need to move is just a little too much to just do it.

Unless you’re referring to something different a in transit permit is only for registration not insurance. For a short move like that I’d just throw whatever plate on it doesn’t matter, insurance is a different thing a potential liability.

 

[CM1995]

Dave do I need to come up there and move it for you?

Got a couple of friends in Calgary and Edmonton so I'll take 7-10 days off, move your machine the first day then vacation the rest of the time. Just pick me up at the airport.

 

[Welder Dave]

Thanks for the offer. I'm pretty sure I can get it moved by the gravel pit. Just not sure when.

I took a look on Google earth and was surprised that there is another route I could take instead of the paved highway. I thought all the range rds. only went about a mile South. I didn't realize there was a rural gravel road that went down close to the new property. Going that way would only require driving about a mile on the paved highway. There's only about 4 farm yards in about 10 miles. Still not ideal but a lot better than going on the highway. I'll have to check that road out. If it's a decent road could be a much better option than going on the highway if I went slow. Hopefully the gravel pit comes through though.

 

[Tatersmt]

Just move the dang thing!!!!!!

 

[oarwhat]

Just move the dang thing.

You have a heavy truck and trailer, load it up and go. Don't use back rods that will just lead to more issues.