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Clark Michigan wheel dozer

nicky 68a

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As JaredV explains, the pads under the blade assembly are clearly seen in my pictures.
This machine was rebuilt before being scrapped by the national energy companies (as is the norm).
It’s technically fit to work many more years in a poor country working the coal stockpiles in power stations.
Spares would be probably ok to find,but for the cost of it,if its owner could get 3 months out of it,it would have easily have paid for itself.
The problem is with any old equipment that isn’t Caterpillar,is that it simply isn’t Caterpillar.
I urge anyone to consider that when buying old equipment.
 

HarleyHappy

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Dave, when you first posted about your new land acquisition and asked about cleaning it up, I recommend a larger reasonable priced loader.
That thing looks like sex on a stick, if it runs and works, for what you want to do with it.
 

LCA078

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I'm not expert in dozers, and know nothing about wheeled dozers except what y'all post here, but the way that blade frame is attached to the main frame doesn't look like it will last long for heavy pushing. Too many long reach right angle joints.

On the flip side, maybe I need those skid pads on my little ranch dozer so I stop building roller coaster roads...
 

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I would love to have an experiment where one of these large, heavy wheel dozers was working a fill lift with 30-40 ton artics. Interested to see how it would compact and achieve compaction compared to a dozer and vibratory roller.

Of course an 815 would beat it but those are $500K plus for one with less than 8K hours on it.

Would be interesting to see how it would perform in that situation. The heavy weight and tires of the wheel dozer along with the weight and tire manipulation of the haul trucks. If one ran the lift correctly keeping the trucks dumping on an arc across the edge of the fill lift, it would be interesting to see the compaction numbers of that setup.
 

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I remember reading a big wheel dozer with good traction would out push a D10. Western Contracting built the Western 2000 wheeled push tractor that was the largest of all dozers wheel or tracked. If I recall it weighed 170 tons and was used to push load large scrapers in about 50 seconds or less!
 

Welder Dave

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I'm not expert in dozers, and know nothing about wheeled dozers except what y'all post here, but the way that blade frame is attached to the main frame doesn't look like it will last long for heavy pushing. Too many long reach right angle joints.

On the flip side, maybe I need those skid pads on my little ranch dozer so I stop building roller coaster roads...
It looks to built extra heavy but is very crude from an engineering standpoint.
 

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CM1995….they may well work well in that application,but you hilight the point about running the lift correctly………
If only.

It amazes me how many people do not understand how to run a proper fill lift.

If you have the trucks be on-road or off-road running in an arc across the edge of the lift not only does the truck not have to go into reverse, it aides in compaction and less work for the dozer.

All the time I see lifts set up where the truck pulls up, goes in reverse to dump close to the edge then the dozer fans it out. Drives me nuts!

Almost as bad as a hoe on a large open bank loading trucks and they have it set up where the truck has to back in when they could easily have the truck pull up beside with no reversing.

A proper set up haul route never has the truck going in reverse. Of course one can't always set it up this way but if it can be set up this way - then it should.

Production = Money
 

Welder Dave

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If you have room make a loop for the trucks to go around to get loaded and they can head straight back after getting loaded. No reverse needed
 

Tones

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CM, I think it's a mining industry thing that has crept into civil construction. Even faceshovels working into the face instead of along it and the trucks doing a loop is another example.
 

nicky 68a

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On the subject of lifts on the fill area,it would be interesting to run an experiment on a job by electronically blanking off reverse in all the trucks and seeing how things progressed from there.
 

Tones

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Side tippers are becoming more common here for all those reasons. Can't load the front trailer on a B double if they back in so circles it is.
 
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