cuttin edge
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Those little freight shaker dump trucks we have come standard with the automatic transmission. If you want a stick, it's a longer waitIt isn't Burger King--you don't get it your way.
Those little freight shaker dump trucks we have come standard with the automatic transmission. If you want a stick, it's a longer waitIt isn't Burger King--you don't get it your way.
Percentage of actual automatics and automated manual transmissions coming off the assemblyThose little freight shaker dump trucks we have come standard with the automatic transmission. If you want a stick, it's a longer wait
Just saying the Arrow had the first fly-by-wire in a non experimental aircraft. Not trying to debate its return. I'm sure there were supersonic planes before the F16 that had fly-by-wire. Human reflexes aren't fast enough at supersonic speeds. A big reason the Arrow was cancelled was because the Americans were embarrassed that Canada had a better plane than anything they even had on the books. Canada looked into this before going ahead with the Arrow. The US convinced the Canadian gov't. that manned aircraft would be become obsolete and Canada should invest in Bomarc missiles... which were a huge flop. They also offered Canada discounted used F101's that were inferior to the Arrow. History has proven that manned aircraft still serve a vitally important role in the defense of nations. The Arrow cancellation was very political but not because it would become obsolete. Even though the Arrow was cancelled it doesn't take away from the fact that it was the most advanced intercepter in the world and the eyes of the aviation world were on Avro Canada. It was 25 years ahead of its time. This is not in dispute. To realize how advanced Avro was you just have to look at the accomplishment of former employee's. 25 engineers went to NASA and were instrumental in putting a man on the moon. Without them it would have taken a lot longer. The head of engineering was a lead consultant on the Concorde. Compare the cockpit of the SR71 to the Arrow. Avro had some preliminary designs for a Mach 3 Arrow. Avro's Orenda engine division were the first to pioneer the use of titanium as the engines were the first in the world designed around titanium. They were the most powerful jet engines in the world and one was sent to the UK. It's believed the engines for the Concorde were based on the design of the Arrows engines. Avro also had the first jet transport in N. America a full 7 years ahead of Boeing and only 2 weeks behind the Dehaviland Comet. It should be noted that the Comet was a flawed design and just lifting off the runway (and coming back down) was considered its first flight. The Jetliner's first flight was an actual flight at altitude. Howard Hughes wanted to build Jetliners under license. Pierre Burton called the scrapping of all the Arrows and tooling the biggest act of official vandalism in Canadian history. 14,000 employee's of Avro laid off and just as many from suppliers for the Arrow. Largest layoff in Canadian history. Some former employee's commited suicide. The decision to cancel wasn't based on cost. Avro offered 100 fully developed aircraft to the RCAF for $12,500,000.00 each which would have been the deal of the century. Since then Canada has spent billions more buying aircraft from the US. Had the political situation been similar to today it's likely the Arrow wouldn't have been cancelled.Was was was. It was never put into production, and would have been obsolete before it began it's intercepter roll. It was ruined by politics as was the rest of the Canadian military. I can't believe the people on social media calling for it's return. It's done and over with. We are committed to the 16 or 17 F35s, they have already invested in infrastructure and training on the F35. Lockheed has promised investments in Canada. Buy the rest of the fighters and be done with it. It would be just like Ottawa to waste a bunch of money buying some Euro fighter, and have to invest in more infrastructure and training for a totally different platform.
Moving the controls on some wire controlled machines has no feeling, Even with pilot controls, there is a feeling of things starting to happen. Not a pressure, just a feeling in the control that fluid is starting to move. Wire control feels the same if the machine was turned off. Maybe is a personal preference. Like slowly squeezing the garden hose nozzle