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Alaskan Logging Equipment, Left to Rust

Iron Art

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Sad to see all the old equipment setting, rusting away knowing how many people benifited when it was operating in its heyday. Did the state or the feds doom the majority of the logging actitvity in So East Alaska? Hope this is not to political of a question to ask. Fred
 

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The federal government rescinded logging contracts in the nineteen nineties stopping almost all logging on federal land in Alaska. I saw some logging on Native lands by the tribes or contractors hired by the tribes.

Last time I was up there logging was only happening on private land for local use of the timber.

Most all that iron shown went up there in the late eighties and early nineties. Most all was well used when it went on the barges. Some of the Link-Belts shown were sold new up there in the early eighties. I was on the crews that built the guarding packages that went on the houses. It does stir memories a little to see some of the stuff I worked on when it was new in these pictures all done in.

Anywhere down south and the iron would have been cut up long ago. It will be interesting as fast as the brush grows up there to see what can be found in five or ten years.
 

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The federal government rescinded logging contracts in the nineteen nineties stopping almost all logging on federal land in Alaska. I saw some logging on Native lands by the tribes or contractors hired by the tribes.

Last time I was up there logging was only happening on private land for local use of the timber.

Most all that iron shown went up there in the late eighties and early nineties. Most all was well used when it went on the barges. Some of the Link-Belts shown were sold new up there in the early eighties. I was on the crews that built the guarding packages that went on the houses. It does stir memories a little to see some of the stuff I worked on when it was new in these pictures all done in.

Anywhere down south and the iron would have been cut up long ago. It will be interesting as fast as the brush grows up there to see what can be found in five or ten years.

If the middle east blew up and a war broke out, need for iron could bounce scrap prices upward, and everything could change. But for now the prices just arent high enough. Occasionally a contractor from Alaska will take a load of scrap south IF they are going south anyway to pick up trucks or equipment or other supplies- king of a reverse back-haul.
 

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Sounds as if the state of Alaska would have benifited by the continued logging if the Feds hadn't been mettling in the states afairs, not a whole lot differant than whats going on here in western Washington. Here it seems as the Feds don't want to log any timber as well as their wish is to close all the roads used to access that timber. There is a lot of second growth now avaiable on Fed land that is of a size that should be going to the modern (small) sawmill. The main difference is there is a lot more land in private ownership to keep the timber industry in a somewhat healthy state over what may exist in Alaska.
All that old Iron will go the way of the steam tractors in a war effort, hopefully not used against us. Fred
 

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Fred, I couldnt have said it any better. The USFS used to contribute to the economy, now it only consumes money, keeps growing, but contributes absolutly nothing.
 

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What's happening with those trucks and loaders? Could one buy them? Or are they sitting to rust? Specifically the dump trucks, can someone help me out?
 

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What's happening with those trucks and loaders? Could one buy them? Or are they sitting to rust? Specifically the dump trucks, can someone help me out?

They're sitting to rust. Cost twice what they're worth to charter a barge to move em' outta there......................sad but true, unless you like to pay $15K for $6,000.00 dimp trucks. You'd do better to find an RB Auction.
 

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On the Lost Coast of Alaska, North of Yakutat and South of Cordova, lies an uninhabited area that has bee extensively logged since the 1950's. The area is so remote, and the waters so fierce, that all of the fuel for this entire operation was flown in by air-tankers (a 7,000 foot runway was constructed for this purpose) out of Anchorage. In the summer months, equipment and supplies were barged in and/or out, but the fuel companies refused to risk it with tankers or fuel barges. Logs were trucked over an extensive road system from the woods to a sort/storage yard at Icy Bay, an iceberg-riddled saltwater cove, where log ships would come in and load up to get them South to markets in the real world. The camp closed and most of the buildings were demolished and finally burned in 2007. But much machinery never made it out, and will be there now in perpetuity, including yarders, loaders, trucks, etc. Here are a few pics I took last trip out there. If you charter out of Yakutat with Les at Alsek Airways, a bush service, it is about 90 minutes North, flying over the miles-long face of Malaspina Glacier, well worth the cost, lots of bear and moose to look at on the trip. Getting there is a real weather challenge, however.
Anyway, some rusty Alaskan equipment pics.
 

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Icy Bay, bones and bears.
 

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The tracks and boom is a Komatsu PC300- the rest of it is 1/2 mile away.....? One of the 988's actually jump-started off a couple of 8D batteries- the one intact of course......Amazing.
 

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Madill 009 (there are 2 of them out there), Skagit 739, and 4 spare Madill tower tubes. Throw in a D8H blade and a bunch of rigging, and you have good photo subjects.......
 

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Like I said.........
 

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Here are some refernce pictures:

1st. Icy Bay with log yard at upper center of pic. House sized icebergs at beach.
2nd. Sort Yard and Icy Bay again.
3rd. Sort Yard and overview of terrain. Lower left area is yard.
4th. Ice cubes, giant sized.
5th. Above equipment seen under 40" of snow cover.........
 

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More reference pics.

1st. On approach to runway. Tracks from Fish and Game officer stationed there.
2nd. 20,000 gallon fuel storage on runway edge (fuel pumped from plane to tanks).
3rd. Dead 40' Whale washed up on beach near camp.
4th. D8H, abandoned in a clearcut with alder trees.
5th. Logged areas with pulpwood decks left behind.
 

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Reference round 3.

Pic 1. Camp area, yarders visible.
Pic 2. Camp with ocean in background.
Pic 3. Iceberg rolling over. It was huge, you cannot tell.
Pic 4. Skidder, 20' container, and ice cubes.
Pic 5. Flying over the miles-long Malaspina Glacier...... just ice forever...
 

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OK, last reference set.

Pic 1. Moose on the flats.
Pic 2. Malaspina Glacier and Mount Fairweather.
Pic 3. Hubbard Glacier up the inlet.
Pic 4. Flying over moose country, into the sunset.........
Pic 5. Back on the ground in Yakutat.
 

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Old M&B Hayes HDX

On the Lost Coast of Alaska, North of Yakutat and South of Cordova, lies an uninhabited area that has bee extensively logged since the 1950's. The area is so remote, and the waters so fierce, that all of the fuel for this entire operation was flown in by air-tankers (a 7,000 foot runway was constructed for this purpose) out of Anchorage. In the summer months, equipment and supplies were barged in and/or out, but the fuel companies refused to risk it with tankers or fuel barges. Logs were trucked over an extensive road system from the woods to a sort/storage yard at Icy Bay, an iceberg-riddled saltwater cove, where log ships would come in and load up to get them South to markets in the real world. The camp closed and most of the buildings were demolished and finally burned in 2007. But much machinery never made it out, and will be there now in perpetuity, including yarders, loaders, trucks, etc. Here are a few pics I took last trip out there. If you charter out of Yakutat with Les at Alsek Airways, a bush service, it is about 90 minutes North, flying over the miles-long face of Malaspina Glacier, well worth the cost, lots of bear and moose to look at on the trip. Getting there is a real weather challenge, however.
Anyway, some rusty Alaskan equipment pics.

Great pictures as usual but sad at the same to see all that equipment rust away. Pictures from the area are great - beautiful wilderness. Fun to see an old M&B Hayes HDX - I wonder what unit number #H??? it had and which M&B div. it belonged to before it went to Alaska. Keep up your great work.
 

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Alaska Left to rust

fantastic pictures keep them coming, its very sad to see all that old plant rusting away, i would be happy rooting around all that old stuff, but its a bit to far to travel from Wigan Lancashire UK is there no chance any of it can be salvaged what about all that polution tyres oil etc ? thanks again and keep the photos coming
 

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Taken last summer, near Haines. Leaves make visibilty lousy, sorry about that.
 

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Haines round 2.
 

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