416 Caterpillar backhoe project

[Nige]

i finally ran it for awhile and used the loader and lots of heat.Are the loaders generally slow on these?My old international 444 tractor i had when up a lot faster than this one

You won't know until you look. It's not hard to get at the thermostat on those engines. It's probably about ready for a replacement anyway. They get tired over time.

 

[pappysparts]

Bought this old beat up fixer upper backhoe just to use around the yard and plow snow for the winter.The guy i bought it from said he was using it to load trucks in his yard of a small paving stone company .He said it was working fine and then it stalled .He siad it was leaking coolant out the side a bit on about behind the filter above the starter of the Perkins 4.236 .It is leaking in between the head and the block.He said there was air in the fuel lines and when he tried to prime it the starter gave out and he decided to sell it as he has many newer backhoes in the yard.I got it home today and the ground from the frame to the battery had a pair of vicegrips holding it on.Anyways i fixed that connection but when i turn the key all i hear is a click to the right of the keyswitch behind the fuses .I have an old international gasser tractor and have never worked on a diesel .Any help would be appreciated

Hey Waybel I have a parts book for you 416B I am new to this site and not sure how to send it but if you flip me your email I would be glad to flip it to you

Doug

 

[waybel]

Hey Waybel I have a parts book for you 416B I am new to this site and not sure how to send it but if you flip me your email I would be glad to flip it to you

Doug

i sent you my email Doug by private message

 

[waybel]

How are these for starting in the cold?The few times i tried it around 0 C 30 degrees F just cranked and cranked and didn't want to ruin my new batteries and rebuilt starter.If i plug the inline heater in connected to coolant hoses for 30 minutes starts right up .Are most of these perkins diesels like this ?.No glow plugs in this one.Something i am not doing properly or do i have to plug in the heater at these temperatures?

 

[pittsburgh cat man]

There should be a place for a either bottle and yes they don't like the cold. usually only takes one hit on either button to get it going

 

[Nige]

How are these for starting in the cold?The few times i tried it around 0 C 30 degrees F just cranked and cranked

Ether required when the ambient temperature is below freezing point according to the O&M Manual.

 

[waybel]

Thanks guys .I thought either was not recommended for these engines .Anyways where would i find one of those either bottles if i can use it

 

[pittsburgh cat man]

Because the either bottle on the machine only injects a metered shot it's not a problem unlike someone with a heavy finger on a either can

 

[Nige]

If all else fails there will be a Cat Part Number for it somewhere.

 

[waybel]

You won't know until you look. It's not hard to get at the thermostat on those engines. It's probably about ready for a replacement anyway. They get tired over time.

Hi Nige , i haven't checked if there is a thermostat but decided i am going to change thermostat because heat is just luke warm in cab.So no o-ring or gasket except for the outer paper gasket?i found the thermostat number 4w-8063 but no idea of gasket number.I guess i could just make one or add sealant?Any idea of bolt torque bolt on the housing? Thanks

 

[pittsburgh cat man]

the outlet gasket is 2w1236

 

[waybel]

the outlet gasket is 2w1236

so that is the only gasket needed ?

 

[pittsburgh cat man]

Yes

 

[waybel]

Yes

thank you any idea about torque on those bolts or just snug ?

 

[pittsburgh cat man]

try this

 

[Nige]

Hi Nige , i haven't checked if there is a thermostat but decided i am going to change thermostat because heat is just luke warm in cab.So no o-ring or gasket except for the outer paper gasket?i found the thermostat number 4w-8063 but no idea of gasket number.I guess i could just make one or add sealant?Any idea of bolt torque bolt on the housing? Thanks

All the required part numbers for the front housing are shown on the 7W-6224 attachment in Post #101.

 

[waybel]

Anyone know what type of wiper to use for the rear windshield?Universal type?

 

[edgephoto]

The part number is 6V5849. The J hook style is pretty common for older cars.

 

[pittsburgh cat man]

from what I see it's 14 inch

 

[waybel]

thank you guys ordered one