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Fastdirt

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The left side of the house was very tight. I had to just keep dropping in dirt till the grade came up. It was tricky, and the back was very tight too. It was a deep cut all the way around, but came together nicely.

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AlldayRJ

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I know nothing about excavation or thos job but why didnt you dig the hole? Or why didnt whoever dug the hole backfill it? Isnt it usually the same contractor or is there a market for each exclusively?
 

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Much better than this BS I got the first go around. I really don't know what I was thinking by taking my trailer to the other guy. The shop where the paint booth is, is the same shop that originally painted my Peterbilt back when I started the project. The shop that has the truck has about three huge paint booths and all they do is fleet and trailer repair for big companies like UPS, Coca-Cola, etc. Even school buses. They do a lot of fleet repair and they even have a 1940's model UPS truck they are restoring for UPS. They also do a lot of custom work to Peterbilts and KW 900's and like trucks. Their shop had four custom rigs in there now that were really tricked out.

My first nightmare paint job on my newly fabricated trailer. What a bad piece of work.
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What a difference from this shoddy job to the job the pros did.
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The professional shop is going to have to remove the overspray that the other guy did and then polish them back. They were brand new and will never shine like new. Just happy it's getting done right.
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Fastdirt

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Here's what it looks like now with a hi rise 63" sleeper. As some know from the other thread I plan on going with a 48" flat top sleeper with windows so that I can shorten the truck. I definitely prefer the flat top 48" in the looks department. I think I'm just gonna post it here from now on. They have a 48" on the yard that is decent but has some dents and dings on it. They say they can make it look brand new.....and I believe them from what I've seen. It will save me a lot of money to go with the one they already have compared to ordering one from a used truck parts place. Flat tops are high dollar. I probably couldn't give my 63" sleeper away. I will also be going with the smaller tanks like the ones on the truck with the 48" flat top. The tanks are going to be gloss black instead of polished. The shop also said they have a 36" sleeper that would make more since in the wheelbase department, but I think it will be too small...and where will I take my lunchtime nap. It was nice going in the 63" sleeper and getting to stretch the old body out for a 30 minute break, especially with some A/C in the summer.

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Looks good. The shorter sleeper and dropping the wheelbase down so both ends of the truck are in the same zip code will help in those tight city streets for sure. I have a 190" wheelbase KW and it is still too long for some of the jobs I need to get into.
One job I picked up a D-8 from a while back was a 14 ft wide gate set back about 10 ft from the edge of 1 18' wide 2 lane road, with a matching 14' wide bridge spanning the ditch from the gate to the edge of the road. That was fun to back into, then pull out of with a D-8T loaded up.
I should have took pictures.
 

Fastdirt

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I know nothing about excavation or thos job but why didnt you dig the hole? Or why didnt whoever dug the hole backfill it? Isnt it usually the same contractor or is there a market for each exclusively?

Well, I just recently got hooked up with the builder. One of the guys that actually taught me a lot at my first job about 20 years ago when we were just kids practically, got me this work. We both worked for his uncle and became lifers. He and his brother have gone on to run some of the biggest pipe crews in the state. He had just got a healthy job offer and left his current job and gave himself two weeks off. He was doing this job for a builder that was a relative of a project manager we both used to work for. They rented a machine and then passed the work off to me. Really good deal for me since the builder has more projects coming up.




Here is the video of the Cat 320EL on the dig of the basement. Way too much dirt to pile up neatly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQon46zAh7U&list=UUwmjLTz3Ih_Uk7akHrTTieA&feature=share

It was dug with a new 320E
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Also a video I just made of a day out in the one man show world. I had to go to this same lot and move 20+ loads off site to make room for the wall crew. This is a really long video but it shows kind of what an average day for me is. I had about 20+ loads hauled out before 1:00 by doing the hauling and loading myself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9aejVCJkHM&list=UUwmjLTz3Ih_Uk7akHrTTieA&feature=share&index=4


Here is a pic of what my buddy Shane normally deals with. They are always on the biggest projects with huge 650 hoes and double stacked trench boxes. Very impressive, and I've worked along side them over the years quite a few times. I will get to some of their jobs soon and capture the caliber of work they do. Right now they are in downtown Atlanta at almost 40' deep replacing a sewer line from the 1920's and going under huge streets. Crazy work.
Only got this pic, but I'm getting more soon.
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Fastdirt

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Looks good. The shorter sleeper and dropping the wheelbase down so both ends of the truck are in the same zip code will help in those tight city streets for sure. I have a 190" wheelbase KW and it is still too long for some of the jobs I need to get into.
One job I picked up a D-8 from a while back was a 14 ft wide gate set back about 10 ft from the edge of 1 18' wide 2 lane road, with a matching 14' wide bridge spanning the ditch from the gate to the edge of the road. That was fun to back into, then pull out of with a D-8T loaded up.
I should have took pictures.


Jerry, I feel your pain. 190" is very short, obviously it's a day cab. That's the right way to go. I've always been a day cab guy, but I had to have space. Mine is at 252" now, and shortening it will only get it to about 228" but I guess I will have to deal with it. I would've loved to see some pics of that predicament you were in. I've been in quite a few that were just horrible, but the last thing on my mind was a camera when I'm blocking a public road. Liked the zip code comment.

This the proper way to get a big semi out of a tight situation here.. http://youtu.be/OJ8WKscGo8I

This is my photoshop rendition of what it will look like.
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The Pete looks good with the flattop. I hope the real one turns out as nice as the photoshop version.

Here are a couple of pics of mine. One in its better days, and one from last winter in Northern Cal on my friends ranch.
 

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Looks sweet in the photoshop pic. Doesn't really look like it will be much longer than a tri axle tractor,should make a big difference in manueverability. When does it go in?
 

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The builder actually had an engineer test the garage compaction after we left. He said we passed it with great compaction. Funny, I wonder if he thought we just fluffed it in there. The Takeuchi 150 can weigh in at 7 tons with a bucket full and really compact some dirt.

So you compacted it by just tracking it with the CTL and a bucket full of dirt? What kind of compaction numbers did you get? Not sure if its the same as this side of the country, but what is the minimum required?
I was under the impression CTL's and tracked equipment in general are horrible for compaction.
 

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My ctl with an empty bucket is near 13klbs, heaped the bucket can easily hold 1.5 yards. Lift it 5-6' up and the majority of that 16-17klbs is on the front of the 18" tracks. What's the tread width on an axle in a 34klb tandem?
 

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So you compacted it by just tracking it with the CTL and a bucket full of dirt? What kind of compaction numbers did you get? Not sure if its the same as this side of the country, but what is the minimum required?
I was under the impression CTL's and tracked equipment in general are horrible for compaction.

It looks ok to me, no reason to pick apart his work. The material looked fine and had plenty of moisture. Good dirt guy's know dirt. The next question will be if he ran a jumping jack around the perimeter of the garage. No reason to pick the guy apart for showing us his work. That is probably the biggest reason on this forum that people quit posting is because of all the armchair quarterbacking.

I appreciate the pictures and the story that goes with it and that is why I visit the forum.

Looking good!
 

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It looks ok to me, no reason to pick apart his work. The material looked fine and had plenty of moisture. Good dirt guy's know dirt. The next question will be if he ran a jumping jack around the perimeter of the garage. No reason to pick the guy apart for showing us his work. That is probably the biggest reason on this forum that people quit posting is because of all the armchair quarterbacking.

I appreciate the pictures and the story that goes with it and that is why I visit the forum.


Looking good!

It does look good! I'm sorry if my comments came across as picking the work apart. I'm just trying to learn here. I didn't know it was possible to achieve adequate compaction with a machine like this but obviously he did it, so its possible. I was thinking that maybe we have different requirements out here..... I'm hesitant to try different methods because it can get real expensive to re-do and re-test if a fill fails.
 

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One can achieve adequate compaction with one's feet for example, compaction is a function of lift thickness, passes, weight of the compactor and manipulation - either static or vibratory. You can compact that whole garage with your feet and meet compaction, it might take you a while though.:D The Romans used sheep to compact their highways that are still there to this day. Rumor has it that's where the term "sheep foot roller" came from.
 

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One can achieve adequate compaction with one's feet for example, compaction is a function of lift thickness, passes, weight of the compactor and manipulation - either static or vibratory. You can compact that whole garage with your feet and meet compaction, it might take you a while though.:D The Romans used sheep to compact their highways that are still there to this day. Rumor has it that's where the term "sheep foot roller" came from.

Good and interesting facts there, and very true about the extreme measures. You could dig a 1,000 acre lake on a bobcat if determined enough. I mean it'll do it, it'd just take ten years.

But seriously LTx-7, I have always done garages with either a bobcat or track loader. You just need a bucket of dirt to get the highest ground pressure possible. Sometimes a half loaded dump truck, but that gets very risky...those walls will and do crack. I was not aware that the builder was going to test the garage and I didn't really do it the way an engineer would want. He never told me until after he had it tested, and said "oh by the way I had the garage tested and the engineer said it was packed really good". He said it got a 95. They were very surprised at how fast we did it...and I was too honestly and I think that's why he had it tested. Here in middle Georgia we have some of the best dirt for compaction. It's red clay and will pack like crazy. It can be sticky and ideal about 65% of the time, but we have sandy soils along with darker dirt that does not like to pack good. We can shear cut dirt that was just filled and compacted. In south Georgia that would never happen.
 

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My ctl with an empty bucket is near 13klbs, heaped the bucket can easily hold 1.5 yards. Lift it 5-6' up and the majority of that 16-17klbs is on the front of the 18" tracks. What's the tread width on an axle in a 34klb tandem?

What CTL weighs 13,000 lbs? I thought the Takeuchi was the heaviest. I had a 2001 Bobcat 963 back in 2001 that was around 10,000 lbs. and then add the metal tracks. I didn't own the machine, but I had a silent investor. It was the biggest and heaviest back then until these tracked machines came along. I really haven't been keeping up with equipment stats the last several years, but boy when I started I knew the weight and horse power of every machine out there. As far as I know the TL 150 is around 11,000 lbs. The new Tak is 12,000 lbs. I didn't think even the Cat 299C weighed that much.
 
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I have the Mustang MTL325 (TL250) EROPS w/ air. The specs say it weighs just under 12klbs, and the shipping on the bucket said it weighed 1k.
 

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Any new project pics? My new to me mini is literally on my front lawn covered in snow, been there two weeks. Got the dirt fever and cant do anything about it
 
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