Pecco or Peiner luffing crane?

[Cartoondude135]

Remember this? Go to 15:54.

One day, I recalled a critical piece of detail from my childhood: the trolley tower crane I witnessed, it looked like it was displaying the word "COUPAL" on it's turntable base and blue counterweights in addition to it's blue and white paintwork. And sure enough, BOOM! I found it! A Pecco SK 170!

Then, out of blind luck, I found another Pecco crane, which, SPOILER ALERT, is most likely the crane that appeared in Spider-Man 3: a CGI modeled and modified version of the Pecco SN 355.

But yes, that crane you see in Mighty Machines, the first luffing crane, is most likely a Pecco SN 160-16. I can't believe I finally identified the "mystery luffing" tower cranes of my past! These tower cranes are like RELICS to me!

But now, I need help to identify THIS ONE (the crane named Carmen):



With all the information I've gathered so far, I'm 50% convinced it's either a PECCO or PENIER luffing tower crane! I feel so close to victory! What I know about this luffing crane is it sports blue and white paint, has a single hook block on a single leg cable, it's boom is operated by a single cable also. It's counter jib also appears to resemble the counter jibs of most typical trolley tower cranes (note the apex it's connected to).

But yes, Skyhook is most likely a Pecco SN 160-16!

 

[Cartoondude135]

UPDATE

Look at the pics below:


After reviewing the Pecco SN 160-16 manual's parts and pieces, I noticed an intriguing clue: A-frame. That's the name of those steel frame things that sit on the counterjib of the SN 160-16.

15:53

Again, the Pecco SN 160-16 is what Skyhook is. But after searching up "non a frame luffing tower crane", I caught a diagram with another interesting and game-changing clue: Cat Head. That's the synonym of apex or tower peak.

So basically, Carmen is some kind of luffing tower crane with the following characteristics: a counterjib attached to the cat head via two rear pendants, a cylindrical load block hook on a single leg cable, and a single boom cable. Blue and white paint on the frame assemblies with what looks like "ELLIS-DON" as it's logo (if "ELLIS-DON" is even a still operating company).



This is Carmen viewed at a different angle.




But yes, with these new clues, it should help cut down our suspects lists and narrow down our search easier.

 

[Welder Dave]

Ellis-Don is one of the biggest contractors in Canada and does major projects. A simple google search would have found that.

https://www.ellisdon.com/who-we-are

 

[Cartoondude135]

I did manage to find some other luffing boom tower cranes with this similar A-frames and counter jibs. but sadly, all hopes for netting the manufacturer behind this type of tower crane design is turning up fruitless.

 

[John C.]

What you are calling and A-frame I've always known as a gantry. Another term you might run across might be a queen post but those are usually found on huge crawler cranes with a straight boom and a luffing jib on top of the straight boom. You might try adding Link-Belt to your search for tower luffing cranes. I've been told by some people at an auction company that those were specced on a project they worked some years ago in New York city.

 

[Cartoondude135]

I just recently found more images to back up proof, but as always, manufacturer name/decal or model number... fruitless.





This is only the first set.

 

[Cartoondude135]

 

[Cartoondude135]

Tarnation. I just need this luffing boom tower crane's manufacturer and I can close this "scraper caper".

 

[Cartoondude135]

HUGE UPDATE (AND THIS CLOSES THE SCRAPER CAPER):

Kodiak

(WRESTLING VICTORY BELLS CLANG) IT'S A KODIAK TOWER CRANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Hits the celebrationator button!)

SPECIAL THANKS
TO
Johnny Reich​

 

[Cartoondude135]

It's like Franklin playing detective for the missing baseball: what goes up must come down is a foolproof principle he follows. But as they stroll along the neighborhood, Bear notices something that "busts the myth" of Franklin's principle: he points out the pizza dough a pizza chef was tossing hit the ceiling of his kitchen, but it stuck (due to it's stickyness) and didn't fall back down. Then Bear notices bubbles in a fish aquarium: they floated up, but never came back down. So then Franklin reevaluates the theory: the baseball went up, bashed a tree branch loose, but fell and rested in (maybe) a bird's nest; the dislodged branch made a splash in the creek Goose was strolling along by - making her think the baseball hit the ground nearby.


Then, in Arthur, DW discovered her backpack is not her backpack. It should have "Dora Winnifred Reid" written on it, but it reads "_OM__ ___BLE". She dug through the bag's contents and eventually discovered it belongs to one of her arch nemesises: Tommy Tibble. She discovered Tommy has the exact same branded and designed backpack as hers. His backpack is supposed to read "TOMMY TIBBLE", but because it was raining that day, some of the letters got washed off.


Or Busytown where Huckle and Sally seek the Missing Martha Mystery books. When tracking down the book store employee Beverly Baboon, they come across a house that's supposed to be 6 Page Turn Lane - Beverly Baboon's residential address. It happens to be Reggie's house instead. Sally wonders why there are two 6 Page Turn Lane houses. Huckle points out there aren't. He discovers the number on Reggie's house facade came loose. He turns it around and it turns out Reggie's house is 9 Page Turn Lane. When they check the book store for more leads, Beverly points out she got a super heavy box. Huckle, certain it's the box of Martha Mystery Books, pulls off the tarp and cheers - only to discover it's got "WW" for Waverly Worm. But their big break turns up when Pig Will and Pig Won't are startled by a monster pop-up book and their blunder gives the cats the break: the pigs try to repair the statue on top of the box, but they put the letters upside down. Then, the big reveal: The box used for the letter statue is indeed the Martha Mystery books. The logo was upside down.



So here, initial assumption: Pecco - due to the signature paint. But after browsing Google Images (of tower cranes in Toronto (due to the city it frequents)), newly discovered evidence taught me paint livery of machines can be manipulated to suit the contractor/company utilizing it.

E.G, this Link-Belt HTC 8670: it's now painted in CHAMPION CRANE livery. So a layperson's assumption: "Champion Crane". But overall, it's the shape and silhouette of the machine that will tell the full story behind it's identity.

 

[John C.]

Another brand name I saw out here today was a Potain. I don't know if they build luffers.

 

[Cartoondude135]

Another brand name I saw out here today was a Potain. I don't know if they build luffers.

They do.