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Old time Logging
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Wolf
Senior Member
solar
Doesn't matter. Tree huggers say solar is a good idea. So what if the sun doesn't shine--they must be right, or so they think . . .
Besides, does anybody actually consider the cost of installing the solar panels/generator to begin with? It's quite expensive to put them in, tax credits not withstanding. . .
Doesn't matter. Tree huggers say solar is a good idea. So what if the sun doesn't shine--they must be right, or so they think . . .
Besides, does anybody actually consider the cost of installing the solar panels/generator to begin with? It's quite expensive to put them in, tax credits not withstanding. . .
Ray Welsh
Banned
Solar panels, known as PV or photovoltaics will still produce electricity under overcast skies, although at a reduced capacity. They use light, not heat, and you need more for cloudy days.
Tax credits depend on the government in control but I'll tell you this for nothing. "The sun will rise for many years after the last drop of oil is used up, so keep your horses handy".
Some may wish to Google "peak oil" which has predicted todays scenario for many years. It's all about supply and demand and certain members of society have burned oil like it was going out of fashon. Is that your country????????
C ya..........Ray
OneWelder
Senior Member
Wolfcsm
Are those a commercial picture ? I can remember my grandfather (he had a sawmill) having what I remember as the some of the same pictures. I have not seen these in 30 to 40 yrs so I could easily be mistaken. I also imagine these to be common poses around the Giant Redwoods
Are those a commercial picture ? I can remember my grandfather (he had a sawmill) having what I remember as the some of the same pictures. I have not seen these in 30 to 40 yrs so I could easily be mistaken. I also imagine these to be common poses around the Giant Redwoods
Wolfcsm
Well-Known Member
I got them off an internet site. Not commercial but did a search on logging and late 1880's.
Hal
danieltree
New Member
Great pics. I doubt that technology would help get those giants down.
Hello,
I am new to the forum so I can't start a new tread. I found an old logging picture from a logging tractor. I have never seen it before but I found it a interesting tractor and I would like to know more about it. Could someone tell me what tractor this is,maybe some more pictures of it. I live in Belgium and I do not have access to all the materials about American logging tractors.
Here is the link to the picture:
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/indocc&CISOPTR=528&CISOBOX=1&REC=7
I am new to the forum so I can't start a new tread. I found an old logging picture from a logging tractor. I have never seen it before but I found it a interesting tractor and I would like to know more about it. Could someone tell me what tractor this is,maybe some more pictures of it. I live in Belgium and I do not have access to all the materials about American logging tractors.
Here is the link to the picture:
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/indocc&CISOPTR=528&CISOBOX=1&REC=7
AtlasRob
Senior Member
Heres the picture, its titled Nehalem, Oregon.
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hvy 1ton
Senior Member
bwat? They had forwarders when people still used b&w? Kinda funny how long tracks took to come full circle.
John C.
Senior Member
Banks,
Nehalem is the name of the area in Oregon where the photo was taken.
The logging industry was alway very innovative in finding ways to move heavy logs out of the woods. I don't recognize the machine but would bet someone has taken an ag machine and modified it carry logs. It doesn't look like they were tied on so I would be kind of nervous about running the rig.
It is a good photo.
Nehalem is the name of the area in Oregon where the photo was taken.
The logging industry was alway very innovative in finding ways to move heavy logs out of the woods. I don't recognize the machine but would bet someone has taken an ag machine and modified it carry logs. It doesn't look like they were tied on so I would be kind of nervous about running the rig.
It is a good photo.
Tanks very much for the information John C. It's just I am very interested in tracked machines. But when I see this photo I though there is nothing new under the sun. If you see the tracked farm tractors of today they where around 75 years ago. In the text with the photo they mention 22 mph. It's very impressive. Its seem to me that the tracks or the same at with the tracked dirt wagons of that same time.
Canevari Timber
Member
Good to see a photo from my neck of the woods. I wish my Grandpa would get his old collection of photos out for me from when he was still logging.
flyboy912
Member
During the early 60's I set chokers out in the Olympic peninsula in the last permanent camp. It was in the rain forest and it rained all the time. We walked on boardwalks in the camp with our corks on. The mess hall had everything to eat you could want. You grabbed a sack lunch on the way out the door. Most of the logs (big ones) were in the mud so we set a small charge under the log to blow out the mud and then jumped down into the water and set the choker. You stood on the log as the charge blew as that was the only safe place to be. Also worked high line on Mt. Rainier with a 600hp. tower yarder and 1 1/2 main line, pretty big logs.
Wolf
Senior Member
great old picutures. where have all the big trees gone?
Roadswitcher
Well-Known Member
Choker man
Well-Known Member
I wonder what the safety inspectors would have to say about the equipment pictured. No hard hats, no guarding, no ROP cab, as well as more than I would possibly know.
They did all the logging and didn't give it a second thought.
The early logging was done with small equipment and now is done with large equipment ( multiple-tasking) when any logging is done.
Can anyone imagine sleeping 20 or more in a single room? Etcetras.
They did all the logging and didn't give it a second thought.
The early logging was done with small equipment and now is done with large equipment ( multiple-tasking) when any logging is done.
Can anyone imagine sleeping 20 or more in a single room? Etcetras.
Redwood Climber
Well-Known Member
They are locked up in parks!
I spent 20 years logging old growth Redwood and Douglas Fir. At the time our company foresters calculated that at the rate we were logging we had at least 100 years of timber supply. Then the whacko's in power in Washington DC decided it would be a good idea to spend the taxpayer's money to lock them up forever. Ever wonder where the nearing 15 TRILLION dollar national debt came from? This kind of thinking has us where we sit. We have well over 100,000 acres of old growth timber in parks up here. The last Redwood will never be cut. They are beautiful trees, beautiful to look at.....beautiful to use.
I spent 20 years logging old growth Redwood and Douglas Fir. At the time our company foresters calculated that at the rate we were logging we had at least 100 years of timber supply. Then the whacko's in power in Washington DC decided it would be a good idea to spend the taxpayer's money to lock them up forever. Ever wonder where the nearing 15 TRILLION dollar national debt came from? This kind of thinking has us where we sit. We have well over 100,000 acres of old growth timber in parks up here. The last Redwood will never be cut. They are beautiful trees, beautiful to look at.....beautiful to use.
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Redwood Climber
Well-Known Member
Actually technology did speed up the process of cutting, logging, hauling and milling those giants. Chainsaws with bars of 6' and longer sped up the cutting. Trees that took days to cut before chainsaws, now (in the 60's - 90's) only took hours. Wrestling a log 8' in diameter now only took minutes to get it to the landing. Sometimes that was with a huge Skagit BU199 or a Washingtono 217 yarder using 1 3/8 to 1 1/2 cables. Other times it may have been a D9G or a D8 46A dragging (skidding) logs to the landing. 988 front end loaders could lift this 8' x 16' log onto a short logger........sometimes it was a real rassliing match......but off it went to the mill being pulled by 400 or more horsepower.......
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