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Oil and Gas industry people, what are these pipes used for?

.RC.

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I guess I won't complain about fuel prices after seeing that. On-road (taxed fuel) is currently $3.99/us gallon. Roughly $1.05/litre. Not sure what our bulk delivery to the farm is, but it's less than that.

Our diesel is around US$7.94/US gallon now.

Some service stations all over the country have run out.
 

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Our road diesel jumped to $4.99-$5.49 locally. I know California is reporting close to same prices as you have.

We took our last bulk delivery at the farm in mid-Feb, before everything got crazy. We'll start our spring work soon with manure dragline followed by tillage. I'm sure our next fuel delivery will be close to $10,000 for just diesel.
 

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I had a call from a bloke who runs a busy repair shop servicing mainly Cat gear for farmers and contractors.
He was trying to drum up work as his phone stopped ringing as soon as fuel prices shot up.
 

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The middle east bs is sure having serious flow on effects.
Pardon the pun.
 

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Yes fertilizer is a big one. The new urea plant being built over in WA is still a year from opening. Two million tonne annual production it is supposed to make.

Fuel issue is a funny one. Thought we might get a top up just to fill everything up and thinking it would be a couple of weeks away added a bit more to the total when we put in an order this morning. They rang this afternoon and will deliver tomorrow. So I have been running around filling up every vehicle and tractor, a few jerry cans and a 44 so it will fit.
 

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We pumped our lagoon last week. Between normal operations, and that, we had to get topped up to the tune of 1400 gallons at $4.65/gallon. Road diesel is right at $5/gallon locally. Some stations pushing $5.50 ish. Not the highest in the country, but that marks a 35% increase in the last 5 weeks in our area.

Still a bit early to start tillage or planting yet, possibly start some tillage next week. Then we'll start burning 2-300 gallons a day until it's done if everything is running.
 

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Yea it is still going up here as well Colson. The government halved one of the fuel taxes so dropped the price by about $0.26c/l but it has pretty much climbed back that much again now.

But I see the weather bureaus around the world are predicting an El Nino should form later this year. That should be good news for you all over there as you might get some good rains. Not so much on our side as it means higher possibility of dry weather.
 

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Drove up to the properties a couple of days ago, so saw a few different prices.
Cheapest diesel was Laidley, $2.99/L.
Further north kept getting dearer.
Average for trip probably somewhere around $2.39/L unleaded, $3.19/L diesel.

As RC said that's with a 26 cent/L tax discount.
 

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I don't need any more rain right now. We got over 5" in about 12 hours on Saturday and now there is massive flooding and washed out roads everywhere. I haven't seen a rain event like that in 30 years (I was 10 the last time we had a one off rain event like that.
 

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goodness me, diesel is still going up...

Now there is talk about drilling for oil.. I would have thought though if there was oil to drill for they would have done it by now. They say Australia is too geologically old to have much oil. That is why we have butt loads of natural gas.
 

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Apparently we have **** loads and other deposits to make urea. As far as I can see the big secret is to keep the end products in Queensland without the need to pay world prices for locally produced products.
 

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So Pony, how did you end up getting on with your new crate?

I was talking with someone who got one built from the same place and he is a fair bit disappointed with it.
 

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Yeah mate, no good, don't touch them.

This will be long.

Cause its a pig trailer, I was concerned about clearance between truck/trailer, I rough fitted the other crate and tested it and worked out that i was comfortable with the clearance if the crate didn't extend any further forward than the front of the trailer tray.

I had the truck crate fitted and towed the trailer up and left the trailer with him, explained/showed, not to extend forward of trailer.
Also wanted equal pens (2 of) or if bow spacing didn't allow then make the front pen bigger (sliding divider, but wanted floor grating in those spots) also wanted side/rear and divider cladding same height and front a bit higher. Gave dimensions with reference to truck crate in person, etc, etc. Few other things that weren't really here nor there.
He wanted a 20% deposit up front, which is pretty standard from my limited experience.

To his credit, it was done in the time frame quoted, was sent some photos upon completion.

Crate extends 4 inches forward of trailer at bottom and 2 inches at top.
Rear pen is larger than front and rear cladding is 6 inches higher than sides.

Called him up, he said that it needed to go forward of tray to allow for the sliding divider. It didn't, they just would have had to mount it differently. Other things weren't what I asked for, but not really the end of the world.

Long story short, I decided that I could live with what he'd built, rather than do my deposit or spend time i don't have fighting to get it back.

Paid for it and took it down here and pulled it off trailer, its not welded underneath, multiple pin holes in welds to the RHS rails/bows at top. Slam latch on divider broken off on drive from Rocky down here. Just a badly made product.

There are some things that are good.
The sliding divider is the best design I have seen, it almost slide to easy, no binding, its really good.

I tried calling once when I found all the shoddy work, I probably should have found them before I took possession and paid for it, but I was more focused on the major off-spwc issues outlined above, so my bad there.
Anyway, he didn't answer my call nor respond to my message, so I chalked it up to a lesson learned and fixed it up myself, rather than wasting time and effort fighting with the clown.

The clearance issue, hasn't been an issue, obviously it ate into the safety margin i allowed, but they haven't come together yet.
The pen size issue, I spec'd no floor grates, was always going to do myself to save a few dollars, so I just cut his spreader bar under the divider out and re-welded it to suit my specs.

There's a lot more issues i could outline, but i think that's enough for now.
 

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.RC.

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I can see in your photo the issue the person was telling me about. The angle iron that run up either side. They are upside down. They do not sit inside the combing rail, which creates another issue they have as they have side doors at the front, so it is sticking up which means putting a pallet of stuff in the front is near impossible for the forklift as you have the height of the combing rain and then the angle iron sticking up from the floor for the forklift forks to negotiate over when putting in a pallet.
 

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Apparently we have **** loads and other deposits to make urea. As far as I can see the big secret is to keep the end products in Queensland without the need to pay world prices for locally produced products.
I'm in Alberta. We have one of the largest supplies of oil and natural gas in the world but still have to pay world prices. Diesel is $2.05-$2.15/L or about $8/Gallon! Alberta supplies huge amounts of oil to major US refineries.
 
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