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need advice getting a stuck pivot pin out

Thadman81

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I have a genie GTH-5519 compact telehandler. The tilt/level compensation cylinder lost an eye and needs to get repaired, and I'm trying to remove it, and it does *not* want to come out. The manual simply says, 'use a soft drift or hammer to knock it out'... XD

For starters, (part of) the retaining bolt fell out in my hand when I went to remove it. It appeared to already be mangled, I barely touched it. seemed broken off at the pin/housing interface. I am guessing that part of it is still in there, the part that is inside the pin. Inspecting in the hole, it looks like the pin has spun inside the housing already and all I can see is solid pin - no bolt end, no bolt hole.

After trying lots of other things, I put a 20 ton jack blocked against the inside of the frame to try to press the pin out, and it only moved about 1/4". the movement it did do was with little force, then it wouldn't budge. see photo of what the pressure did to the block I used to get the jack level. While there was pressure on the pin from the jack, the cylinder would not rotate on the pin without a huge amount of force. cylinder eye was pushed hard into the opposite ear of the mounting brackets. so it seems like the pin is stuck on/in the eye of the cylinder somehow.

so, I'm running out of clever ideas. I've been turning wrenches for 30 years (mostly automotive, but some smaller equipment) and this is a new one. I imagined that even if there were bits of that retaining bolt still in there, 20 tons of force would shear them off. no dice. I considered trying to drill out the remains of the retaining pin, but it doesn't seem like it's even exposed anymore, I don't have a way to get a drill bit into it, and lastly, it doesn't seem that's the problem anyway.

what would you do?
 

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MarshallPowerGen

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NW USA
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Generator Technician & Equipment Mechanic
Oh, those were always fun to work on as rentals.

Get that nest out of there and hit it with a torch. A real air hammer can try to knock it loose and get it to start moving. It's most likely going to need a shock to break it loose before a jack will start to move it, and hoping it didn't wear a lip in that will hang up without the rod perfectly centered.

I think the last of those I personally worked on needed the pin lanced out.
 

HarleyHappy

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You could try and blow the retaining bolt out, after a serious cleaning, with a torch. If desperate, you could slice the sides of the ear, where the retaining bolt go through, against the pin and cut and weld a new boss on after.
Probably a lip worn between the cylinder and the ear hanging you up.
 
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