My D6D

[Welder Dave]

So who will break me out of jail when the government finds out what I have been doing?

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Is it illegal to abandon equipment in the middle of a forest? I'm sure someone would take it off your hands.

 

[.RC.]

Why? Can’t clear your own property over on convicts isle?
Lol

We could do anything we wanted prior to about 2001. Then the b*****d state government put a heap of restrictions on what we could do to get urban people to vote for them. For some people the government every few years has been tightening the screws on what you can clear and not clear.

We got 2 D9's and a long bit of chain in just prior to the laws and got flattened what was feasible to clear.

In the above photo's, that area is just on the line between where I can and cannot clear again.

These two photos. the coloured one is off the government website. The blue area I am not supposed to clear, it is all too steep anyway. The white dot is approximately where the photo's were taken.

The black and white photo is a govenment aerial photo taken in 1991. The red dot is in about the same spot as the white spot in the other photo. It was all cleared in about 1988.

The thing that really annoys us is we legally own all the vegetation as the government sold it all to the landowner when the land went from being leasehold land (government owns it and leases it to the lessee) to freehold land (where it is owned by the owner) yet had all our rights to do with it as we see fit taken away just with the stroke of a pen.

 

[HarleyHappy]

I have the same stipulation because the proximity of a state river. I will clear what I need to clear, until a person rats me out or they see it on an aerial. Then claim ignorance. When I was in Tennessee, I built a house on the river/lake and the TVA tried to fine me 45k for talking trees down to the riverbank for a view.
I claimed yankee ignorance and had to sign a primosory note and replant 50 trees or so and succumb to TVA and state inspections but I still had my view.

 

[JS430]

We also have areas we can and can't clear. We can't clear near creeks, rivers, or wetlands without approval. We cleared 200 acres several years back. We created a buffer zone for a creek that runs through and everything was good until I decided to clear an additional 20 acres on a hill. They found the 20 acres on satellite and came out to inspect and give me a talking too. They threatened to fine me but the area was fine to clear in the end.

 

[skyking1]

recently a homeowner was caught knocking down 150 trees on public land to enhance his view. Hopefully he gets jail time for that stunt.
a guy had a trail camera set up to watch for wildlife, and here comes a big tree sliding down the mountain!!
https://www.king5.com/article/news/...quah/281-8b9f892a-8038-4946-9c58-75a4c05b7376
The county is suing the 3 homeowners for 7 million, I wish they would toss their rich white asses in jail instead. Entitled SOBs get away with all sorts of crap.

 

[Queenslander]

The most frustrating thing about our tree laws is that despite owning thousands of acres of freehold trees they are worth next to nothing to us.
We have a couple of thousand trees for every beast we own but to receive any benefit for carbon credits and the like we would have to plant more of the bastards… that ain’t happening.

 

[Pony]

I reckon the most frustrating thing is the fact that my grandfather and probably your father paid thousands and thousands of dollars to freehold our properties so they would have the right to manage vegetation as they saw fit.(amongst other things).

Then as RC says, a stroke of a pen a generation later and freehold land has no more rights than leasehold.

Something else interesting, in prosecuting tree clearing offences the burden of proof realistically changes, the prosecution really doesn't have to prove you cleared the timber, you have to prove you didn't.
Courts have basically accepted that no one else is going to invest the time and money required to clear land to "frame" someone.

So murder someone, innocent until proven guilty, cut down a tree you own, someone decided you cant, guilty til proven innocent.

Gotta love the "fairness" in that.

 

[JS430]

I didn't know the "tree" laws were so strict in Australia. If I want to watch any deforestation videos I type Australia in YouTube. I figured you guys were clearing everything.

 

[Queenslander]

My father drew the block we have now in 1949 as an 18 year old.
One of the conditions of the lease was that he ring bark 8000 acres within 5 years.
Of course he had no chance of doing that so ended up in land court pleading his case.
Luckily, they allowed him to stay but you can imagine his reaction, when 50 years later, they threatened to fine him for killing too many trees.

The only clearing now is regrowth on previously cleared land.
There was a brief reprieve about 10 years ago when some limited clearing of maiden country was allowed for “high value agriculture”.
Unfortunately, that door slammed shut after a change of government.

 

[.RC.]

This seems a strange place to put a stickrake.

I didn't know the "tree" laws were so strict in Australia. If I want to watch any deforestation videos I type Australia in YouTube. I figured you guys were clearing everything.

Most of the videos these days seem to be from South American countries. Hard to find because a search in english will not bring them up.

 

[Queenslander]

’Tis a bit strange, fall in a hole or just come loose?

 

[.RC.]

Didn't see the big tree when I went into the gully, then it is so nose heavy with it installed it does not like backing out, add some rocks to skate on and it equals fun times.

 

[HarleyHappy]

Looks like a good place to get sucked in and never be found.

 

[skyking1]

Didn't see the big tree when I went into the gully, then it is so nose heavy with it installed it does not like backing out, add some rocks to skate on and it equals fun times.

Like a coyote chewing its leg off to get out of a trap, something had to go!
Get a winch line on it and prepare for more fun times. You know it won't come easy and hook on to every damn root and stob on the way back up the hill.

 

[.RC.]

got that bit done. Got a 500hr service to do now.

 

[Queenslander]

Some grass seed would probably go alright there.
Iam looking at a Seabrook seeder to mount on the rippers so we can spread some seed while raking.
Probably only 3 meters wide and make it so we can swap between machines.
As well as his traditional agitator style he is now making one with fluted drills which is more suited to coated seeds.

 

[.RC.]

I planted seed as I went, but I think not enough so am toying with the idea of seeing if there is anyone close with a spraying drone that can throw seed out.

I like my seabrook seeder. A lot tougher then a drum one should a wayward stick hit it. It is a 12V one so have a 24-12V 40 amp converter on the dozer to feed it 12V. It will fit on the dozer, and the set of offsets I have. They are pretty cheap these days (the converter not the seeder) Bit over $100 for a Victron Orion brand one. But the seeder like mine with the bars is more suited to fluffy seeds. The coated seeds get churned up a bit by the bars. A combine (seed drill style seeder for our US readers) where the seed goes into a rotary elevator sort of thing would be better for the free flowing seeds. I have had the seabrook seeder lock up when it had coated seed left in it and it packed down when the seeder was not used.

I will plant signal, mekong brizantha and might get some gatton panic. Bilo buffel would also love this soil, but gone are the days when you could get it for $2 a kg.

Couple of photos of mekong grass as well.

 

[DMiller]

Funny, as to the Mekong Grass, appearance is as what we call Field Grass here, Beef will NOT eat it, eat all around it and leave the tall, stringy stalky blades.

 

[Queenslander]

Great minds think alike.
Just not sure yet about his new style seeder.
Definitely great for coated seed but would not handle fluffy raw seed at all.

 

[Pony]

Can't say I've ever heard of it, not that that means anything.
Does it grow spread out like the hat pic, or have you run over it with something?