Giving warranty on used equipment

[Welder Dave]

I do have a short box. I have a really cheap engine crane but it leaks down pretty fast. I don't have room for it but wouldn't really trust it anyway.

 

[Welder Dave]

After sending pics. of the plug and name plate showing the input power requirements, his electrician said it will work on the same 50 amp box as his dead Thunderbolt. I knew it would but if he wanted to check to make sure good on him. Wouldn't be good if it wouldn't work in his shop. He texted me this morning he wants the welder. Fantastic!
Moving it from my truck to his is the only issue but I had a brainstorm... or a brain fart. I was thinking I could call a farm store in the city we'd meet in advance and see if they could pick it up with their forklift and transfer it? It would sure make it a lot easier. I guess it would depend on if the manager of the farm store is a nice guy or not. Does this sound like a good idea? If not another idea I had was to take my skid steer to pick it up but that's kind of extreme. The other thing is I should get him to bring cash. Then there's no issues with him taking it.

 

[crane operator]

Bring a pry bar and pieces of pipe. Pry one end up, insert pipes. Roll it on the pipes from your bed to his. Prybar to pull pipes back out.

 

[Welder Dave]

It is on wheels that I think makes it easier. Some thick plywood or maybe planks could work but I can't see a tractor dealer having a problem to move it if asked politely. I think we could move ourselves though. Nice to have a back up plan though.

 

[oarwhat]

I think you're making to big a deal moving this thing. Back the trucks tailgate to tailgate. Put down some thinner plywood or metal across the tailgates and roll it across. Use a 2X4 to pry it and not damage the beds. It's only 400# so 100# on each wheel. Tailgates will hold it up just fine. Ever see two or three big guys sitting on a gate. That's 500# easy.

 

[Welder Dave]

He's in a dually so it's a bunch higher. I'll probably have to leave my tailgate down and have the plywood sticking out some. I have a short box with a slip tank in it. There is a hardware store close to where I'm meeting him so I think it would be good to have a plan b.

 

[92U 3406]

You need to state which machines you've had and now have to qualify your statements. Something built up to 2018 is hardly an antique. Some of the best welders ever made are antiques and still in demand. As far as being tolerant to voltage fluctuations transformers have at least 10% line voltage compensation. The welder I'm selling also has capacitors which further help to handle power fluctuations. There have been problems with inverters being damaged by power fluctuations. Inverters are smaller and can be moved around easier but it's still easier to use longer welding cables. If you move the inverter closer, where do you put it, on the floor? Who wants to get on their hands and knee's to change the amps? If you have a cart it takes up a bunch more space. I have a very good transformer welder I'm trying to sell. It's perfectly capable of any type of heavy equipment repair or general fabrication using stick electrodes. It will also do scratch start Tig on steel. As an added bonus it also has AC current if you encounter arc blow burning larger rods or welding around irregular shapes. A high frequency could be hooked up for AC Tig welding as well. You see them used fairly often. A welder repair shop here has an Idealarc 250 for sale for $1200. It requires 575 volts and doesn't come with any cables or power cord. I don't think my price is unreasonable. I'll also include some lessons and delivery within a reasonable distance. Who else does that?

Are the old Lincoln 225/125 AC-DC stick welders any good? Any idea what a reasonable price for a working one with leads would be?

 

[Welder Dave]

They are OK with a real nice arc on DC but barely enough amps for 1/8" 7018. I bought one less than a year ago with 90' of #4 cable for $125 at auction and sold it for $450 due to the cost of the cable. New are like $1100!! Peavey Mart had them on sale for $900 near the beginning of the year. I wouldn't recommend a new one at those prices. I should add that I had a straight AC225 eons ago and could burn standard Blueshield 7018 in 1/8" and even 5/32" without much problems. I have tried several Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC machines and it was an exercise in frustration trying to burn std. 7018. The arc would keep popping and it was very hard to maintain a steady arc. The Lincoln even though it has stepped amps adjustment was way easier to keep a steady arc.

 

[Welder Dave]

Correction the cable was #4 but it's a crazy price now too.

 

[PBEtrucking]

Yeah, I need someone who knows a little bit about welding and machines to see the ad. I'm asking a good price but it's only $100 more than a new Lincoln AC225 buzz box and 10 times the welder. Most people don't realize the cheap inverters have a fairly short lifespan and if something goes wrong, they aren't worth fixing. Another thing someone pointed out is it's a lot harder to steal a 400lb. welder. I could add an unopened 50lb. can of rods but I'll add I could deliver it within a reasonable distance. The trailer shop where it's at has a small trailer with ramps it could be rolled off. It's a Miller Dialarc 250P AC/DC. The P means it has power factor capacitors so will work on a smaller breaker. Unless running it at max. it will run on the same breaker as a buzz box.

Whoever buys that is gonna get a great power source for their shop. I have a slightly newer version (I think circa 2001 if I read the serial number right), but that dialarc 250 is an absolute hoss of a machine, can't seem to find the duty cycle. I have it setup in one corner of the shop with a 100ft ground cable and 120ft stinger, it's never moved. I just roll out enough cable to weld I side, outside, in the road, anywhere I need really lol. Use it for everything from 3/32" 6011 to 18" long 3/16" 7024 jet rod running 250 amps good luck on the sale

 

[Welder Dave]

I sold month's ago. It had capacitors so would run on a 60 amp and even a 50 amp breaker if not used above 200 amps.

 

[92U 3406]

They are OK with a real nice arc on DC but barely enough amps for 1/8" 7018. I bought one less than a year ago with 90' of #4 cable for $125 at auction and sold it for $450 due to the cost of the cable. New are like $1100!! Peavey Mart had them on sale for $900 near the beginning of the year. I wouldn't recommend a new one at those prices. I should add that I had a straight AC225 eons ago and could burn standard Blueshield 7018 in 1/8" and even 5/32" without much problems. I have tried several Miller Thunderbolt 225 AC machines and it was an exercise in frustration trying to burn std. 7018. The arc would keep popping and it was very hard to maintain a steady arc. The Lincoln even though it has stepped amps adjustment was way easier to keep a steady arc.

I picked up a really old one, guessing it was built in the 80s or 90s for a decent price. Ultimately I want a nice MIG and possibly a TIG setup but this will get me by for a while. The little 110 volt MIG I have can barely weld exhaust pipe.

Life lesson learned, never waste money on a 110 volt welder of any kind.

 

[Birken Vogt]

I picked up a really old one, guessing it was built in the 80s or 90s for a decent price. Ultimately I want a nice MIG and possibly a TIG setup but this will get me by for a while. The little 110 volt MIG I have can barely weld exhaust pipe.

Life lesson learned, never waste money on a 110 volt welder of any kind.

I have a thrift store 120v welder and can make it run OK but it is very finicky to get it to run smooth. It is possible though.

Looked at some modern stuff some years back where it would run on 120 or 240, all sorts of options, but I do not weld enough so never bought it. But way more versatile than anything with transformers as the major driver.

 

[ianjoub]

I picked up a really old one, guessing it was built in the 80s or 90s for a decent price. Ultimately I want a nice MIG and possibly a TIG setup but this will get me by for a while. The little 110 volt MIG I have can barely weld exhaust pipe.

Life lesson learned, never waste money on a 110 volt welder of any kind.

I have two Lincoln 120v Mig welders. They both work just fine. It welds 1/8" no problem, maybe thicker.

 

[92U 3406]

This thing I have is terrible. It barely gets hot enough to weld sheet metal. Even then it doesn't penetrate well and doesn't make nice beads. I've tried different wire sizes. Fluxcore with and without gas, solid wire with gas and it just seems like I can't get a nice bead with it.

 

[Welder Dave]

Name brand machines are much better on 120 than the cheap imports. A lot of times you need to have a 20 amp circuit instead of the standard 15 amp.

 

[92U 3406]

Mine's probably an import. Even running it on a 20 amp circuit its trash.

 

[MarcusZ1967]

Look for one of these. Been running for years. Got both 120v and 230v versions.

 

[Welder Dave]

I think the SP130 is a box store Lincoln but would still work OK on 120 volts. Some of the cheaper 120 volt machines don't put out the advertised amps. 120/240 machines are generally decent and will burn smaller wire nice if only 120 is available.

 

[MarcusZ1967]

That Lincoln won't go below 208v. We do have some 120v boxes.

This is the one I like tho..