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DILLIGAF

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Perth, Western Australia
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buisness owner, excavation earthmoving and drainag
positrack

I've had a positrack for about three years now aswell as other gear, and i can definatly say that they are unbelievable at going where the others cant as i work with a lot of wet clay, they have more than enough power and a very smooth ride, good visability ect, however this all has come at huge expense, its had 5 drive motor failure's in the last 400 hours alone and in all of its 1800hours has done about ten drive shafts/motors and is sending me broke, i have always taken such good care of all of my machines, they get a full "mini" service at the end of every day with a good washdown and close inspection, and all of my machines have been so reliable with almost no breakdowns (one fanbelt in nearly 4yr's on the kubota digger), now its come to the stage that i would feel too much guilt to sell this demon to some other poor bloke so i'm unsure what to do. I really need a machine like this for the sort of work im doing, the guys from the dealership workshop have no idea what the problem is and cant give me an explaination, Is it just a lemon? Do i trade it on a new one (cos the thought of that makes me cringe) do i set fire to it? or have a priest perform an exorcism on it
 

74inchShovel

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Washington
You have pretty much summed up my ASV experience. Alot of problems, most stupid things, no real big ticket items yet. What model do you have? How has it been for track life? You may want to look at Cat- all the suspension benifits without the terrible build quality.
 

DILLIGAF

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I've got the RC60, I only just replaced the first set of tracks at 1750 hours although they still would have had plenty of life in them but one of my drive sprockets fell to bits and left the track running on the outside plate with all the sharp broken edges that destroyed the track in a matter of seconds, i didnt hear it give way and there was no slippage at all so didnt realise until i reversed back down the hill when it started to slip, but was too late, otherwise i would have been really happy with track life, im not fussed if i have a suspended track frame or not but i have demoed the takeuchi and loved it but it had too much ground pressure for my sort of work (I got it bogged, badly), i asked the dealer about perhaps wider tracks for it but they didnt seem overly keen on the idea, I havent had the time to have a look at the cat yet
 

pete40

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Australia
I am trying to get some information on how well these compact track loaders work on steep slopes - I mean very steep slopes - scary stuff, hard to walk down. Anybody got any tales to tell.

I have 150 acres of forested, steep land that I just want to push a few walking tracks on and not make a big impact - a dozer would probably do too much damage.
 

Tri-Star

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TN
Well pete40 a little more info would be helpfull, but I can tell you I have had my Bobcat T300 in some real hairy places but it depends on the terain condition and the operator! You might want to think about a mini excavator and track loader combined.
 

Big Dazzler

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Hi

From my limited experience a tracked machine is far more stable on slopes than a wheeled one simply because the tracks cover more ground so a hole is not as big a problem.

Not sure whether the suspension models such as ASV make any difference though.
 

rubbertrack

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ASV RC Serials Tracks And CAT MTL Tracks

I own two machines, an ASV RC50 and a Bobcat S220. I was a Bobcat salesman for over 8 years and I've seen/heard and experienced both sides of the fence now. My first suggestion would be for you to demo the machines that fit the size, ROC, hydraulic flows, and engine hp's that best fit your application. The argument of which type of system (nonsuspended and suspended) costs more, is more complex vs. simple, etc. has been beaten to death on this and other threads. I will give you my opinion and experiences so far, and I'm sure others will too.

I don't completely buy into the fact that the ASV system costs more to operate compared to the unsuspended system. I sold the Bobcat tracked machines and maintain close ties to many of the salesmen I used to work with who still sell them, or have moved on to other dealers that sell other brands, most notably CASE and JD. All of them get pretty much the same track life(750-1000 hours) since they all come new with the Bridgestone tracks. I have over 1500 hours on my RC50 tracks and ultimately bought an ASV based on what I was seeing in the field and selling against. Of course, much of any track life can be controlled by the operator in the seat. Additionally, my ASV salesman just returned from the annual dealer meeting in which ASV released a program that reduces their undercarriage costs by as much as 40%. I am still waiting to see the details from him so that I can make my own determination. I will be the first to say that the ASV cabs are not as nice as the CAT of some of the others, but they are perfectly comfortable and in my opinion perform better than most of the others including CAT. I think it is because ASV focuses only on building tracked machines and not adapting a skid steer to fit to tracks (widths, ground clearances, hp to weight ratios, ground speeds, etc.). Once again, I think you need to check the machines out in the type of application you would be using the machine in. And of course, these are only my experiences. I'm sure others will chime in too. Good luck in your search.

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DIRTROAD

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South Carolina
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Forestry
I am looking at a PT100 with the forestry package. Does anyone feel they have a reason to talk me out of it? I am looking for any feedback that I can get. Thanks
 

Imtryin

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Bobcat does offer a roller suspension, but I believe its optional? I cant say much about asv as i have never ran one. Or for any matter I've only ever seen a hand full, does not seem like excavators or landscapers use them around this area. I do know that I like our bobcats a lot. They have bigger buckets in a low profile than I have seen on other brand or ctl's ( I may be wrong on this, as you can buy different size buckets to suit your need). As far as pushing dirt goes vs machines a lot of it has to do with the operator (as mentioned above) and the understanding of how to work piles of dirt and etc. With that being said I'm just saying I've talked to and seen a lot of people who talk the talk but cant walk the walk when there not using the machine in the proper way. That can lead to an opinion in which the person has no idea really about. And for the record I'm not saying any of this to bash any brand of machine or anyone in particular here. Just bringing that as a thought of mind.

Any ways I like our bobcats, maybe one day I'll get to run an asv to form an opinion on them. Oh, and I do like a vertical life path as opposed to a radial lift. Makes it a lot easier when loading try axles and taller dump trucks. Does asv offer a vertical lift machine?
 

cartzblown94z

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looks like the rc30 is a hit. i plan to buy one hopefully this week and everywhere i look it is praised. i want to start doin side jobs and other part time work with it, seems like the only choice for finished lawn work and such. maybe some snow pushing in winter time as well
 

benjahw

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florida
New to forum.. i have an 2005 cat 287b. just got it...need to tighten one of the tracks.. do i just tighten the tensioner or do i have to first loosen something up. thanks. no service manual and no dealer help L:(
 

cartzblown94z

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Monroe Center, IL
for my rc30 and i think the rc50 you drive the machine 5 feet forward, stop and lay a long straight edge on the top of the track from drive to front roller and pull down with 50lbs of force and measure the gap between the straight edge and track for me is .75" or less is ok. do some web searching i found my manuals for free on the web and downloaded them and printed them

i dont have to loosen anything but the lock nut on the strut for tightening
 

samson09

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Colorado
We use an RC100 for mulching brush with a Loftness head...had the machine for over a year..have the forestry kit..no complaints at all...check my other posts for pics..
HeyUvaVT- as of today, are you still happy with your set up?
 

245dlc

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There are a few contractors around here that use the RC-30's for final grading around new houses here. But I have seen a lot of them being towed or pushed onto trailers with suspension and or undercarriage problems. I'm kinda wondering if the Bobcat T-110 would be a good alternative. From what it looks like ASV has a lot of trouble with they're plastic rollers and suspension, but I haven't run one myself just the Bobcat track loaders.
 
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