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Willie B

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Will last past the rest of the life of that truck, nothing wrong there.
In the days I patched up rusty vehicles, I really preferred trucks. I remember a father & son farmers. 30 year old son $8000. (1975 dollars) had bought a new F350 to haul sawdust, still needed his father's signature. They had an older F350 with very low mileage. If I recall, my price to replace floorboards, rockers, and cab corners was about $700.
After the father commited to me repairing, he added his instructions: No body putty. Weld new door bottoms, floors, cab corners, paint. "This truck hauls sawdust", (bedding for 50 cows 6 20 mile round trips a year") "I'm not interrested in a showpiece, just a legal truck."
I patched it up, they used it ?10? more years. It served its purpose. By then the father died, the son gave up farming.
 

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No, I used a friends little Mig welder for this.
Funny, I test drove a Miller ?200? in 1978, I fell in love with it, couldn't afford it. Over the years, several people I knew bought little off brand MIG welders. I tried a few, without success. I just welded sheet metal with oxy/acetylene. Must have been 2008 my son & I were replacing cab corners & rockers on a C65 Chevy, borrowed a Miller ?140? It was a great little machine for thinner steel?
Eventually I bought a new Millermatic 252, then later upgraded to a MM255.
 

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Still using my Miller 210, nice welder but does nit like less than .030 wire. When replaces panels on the Ford I should have gotten a lighter wire feed welder.
I had a Lincoln 255 Mig I really liked but .023" wire forget it. I exchanged 3 rolls of wire but they all had the same problem. The wire on the rolls was interweaved and would jam up and not feed at the same rate. It was frustrating as hell trying to do a nice weld! I ended up not keeping the welder for too long. Not because I didn't like it but because I had to get out of a really bad business deal. The shop I bought the wire/welder from only had one brand of .023" wire. It was an off brand. I think name brand wire would be wound better with the best being layer wound. I'd pay more for layer wound if I could find it. Larger wire like .035" feeds much easier and doesn't birdsnest as easy.
 

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I had a Lincoln 255 Mig I really liked but .023" wire forget it. I exchanged 3 rolls of wire but they all had the same problem. The wire on the rolls was interweaved and would jam up and not feed at the same rate. It was frustrating as hell trying to do a nice weld! I ended up not keeping the welder for too long. Not because I didn't like it but because I had to get out of a really bad business deal. The shop I bought the wire/welder from only had one brand of .023" wire. It was an off brand. I think name brand wire would be wound better with the best being layer wound. I'd pay more for layer wound if I could find it. Larger wire like .035" feeds much easier and doesn't birdsnest as easy.
Yeah, I find I could weld very thin steel with MM252 and .030 wire. I always had a birdnest problem with .023. I did buy a very short 100 amp rated gun to weld .023, but birdnest persisted. I haven't yet needed to weld with .023 since I've had this MM255. I usually just get lazy about changing everything, run whatever is on the spool. I most often use TIG on very thin sheet, softer weld, I can dolly it better to control distortion.
 

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I have a HTP AUTO Mig I think its 140 amp I only run .023, on it and its works great . I have had it for a long time maybe 30 years . I have hauled it to work several times and the last time i had a deal and broke something on it . I am trying to get the part i hope I can . Its been a GREAT welder I cant say enough good about it.
 

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Early 90's welding for irrigation/domestic well business, I used a White Face Miller 35,
that machine would weld light gauge steel all day long with .030.
 

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How the wire is wrapped on the spool is critical for .023" wire. You also want to use a smaller liner and inlet and outlet guides. The guides should be as close to the drive rolls as possible without touching them. A shorter gun can help too.
 

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How the wire is wrapped on the spool is critical for .023" wire. You also want to use a smaller liner and inlet and outlet guides. The guides should be as close to the drive rolls as possible without touching them. A shorter gun can help too.
I used the adjustment proceedure in the manual repeatedly without success.
I learned of a retired Miller authorized service man 20 miles away. He spent an hour checking the adjustments without improvements.
Same machine, was a nightmare of birdnest with .045 dual shield. Finally resolved that problem.
 

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I used the adjustment proceedure in the manual repeatedly without success.
I learned of a retired Miller authorized service man 20 miles away. He spent an hour checking the adjustments without improvements.
Same machine, was a nightmare of birdnest with .045 dual shield. Finally resolved that problem.
Sometimes you have to suspend the feeder and have the gun hanging down. Hard to do with an all in one machine. Same reason aluminum is major problem to feed with a standard gun. A short gun with the smallest liner is about all you can try.
 
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