Anyone run farm or personal on heavy trucks?

[fastline]

I've been frustrated for many years as everything I need to move stuff, time time and cost drives me right back to equipment ownership. Not because I'm trying to insult the trucking trade at all, it's just always a massive scheduling hassle, and if anything goes wrong, my checkbook is the target.

I own and run a farm. I wanted to get a day cab tractor to use, then try to find a few trailers, and maybe just rent them back out or something to justify the ownership. But I am curious if any of you guys run as farm type O/O? My primary use is just going to get stuff that exceeds my dually/goose capacity within a 200-300mi range. the laws/regs/requirements get insane blurry in this space. Hell, I would tag and own as personal if I could avoid drama, but it seems like a screw job where people run illegal daily with goose config, anywhere, yet a semi gets all the looks. I was hoping a day cab would signal "I don't live in this thing".

I just want to own a power unit and trailers that can move my stuff when needed.

 

[Welder Dave]

I think a lot of farmers put farm plates on big trucks for hauling bales, cattle, grain, equipment etc. I wish I could get farm plates. I don't think farmers need an air brake endorsement either but it's good to have. Insurance is way cheaper. There might be a stipulation on how far away from the farm you can drive.

 

[fastline]

I think a lot of farmers put farm plates on big trucks for hauling bales, cattle, grain, equipment etc. I wish I could get farm plates. I don't think farmers need an air brake endorsement either but it's good to have. Insurance is way cheaper. There might be a stipulation on how far away from the farm you can drive.

There technically is, thus why I'm asking. 150 air miles in my area. Who TF knows how sticky that gets.

 

[smifwal]

You don't even need a CDL in Missouri if you are using your truck for farm use. I have a friend that I was sure he had a CDL he has had a tractor trailer for years, Nope

I have farm use on my gooseneck and my dump trailer. I wasn't using them like I do now, I should probably switch them over to regular tags now that I am excavating full time

 

[fastline]

You don't even need a CDL in Missouri if you are using your truck for farm use. I have a friend that I was sure he had a CDL he has had a tractor trailer for years, Nope

I have farm use on my gooseneck and my dump trailer. I wasn't using them like I do now, I should probably switch them over to regular tags now that I am excavating full time

MO, technically is prob the same, which 'should' be a class A non-commercial. However, what you mention is different than me, in which I need to jump a state over or something, in which those lanes are squarely in DOT huntland. Find a reason to get some money. Who knows, I've talked my way out of many situations, but I do need to educate a bit. At least look like Im trying to comply.

As it pertains to farm, Yes, I need a 200T press brake on my farm. Don't we all?

 

[Tyler d4c]

MO, technically is prob the same, which 'should' be a class A non-commercial. However, what you mention is different than me, in which I need to jump a state over or something, in which those lanes are squarely in DOT huntland. Find a reason to get some money. Who knows, I've talked my way out of many situations, but I do need to educate a bit. At least look like Im trying to comply.

As it pertains to farm, Yes, I need a 200T press brake on my farm. Don't we all?

A brake a d9 a ex1100
Were going to clean the barn officer. In a hurry.

May need a new barn tho

 

[Coaldust]

In Ak, farm plates are limited to 20k lbs or less and driven exclusively within 150 air miles of the farm. No CDL, no HOS.

I was gonna become a ganga farmer and looked into it. Figured I needed a sweet Peterbilt to haul all my weed to the dispensary.

Farm Vehicles, Division of Motor Vehicles, State of Alaska

dmv.alaska.gov

 

[smifwal]

MO, technically is prob the same, which 'should' be a class A non-commercial. However, what you mention is different than me, in which I need to jump a state over or something, in which those lanes are squarely in DOT huntland. Find a reason to get some money. Who knows, I've talked my way out of many situations, but I do need to educate a bit. At least look like Im trying to comply.

As it pertains to farm, Yes, I need a 200T press brake on my farm. Don't we all?

You can go from farm to farm, or for farm related stuff. In state or out. My sister lives in Oklahoma he doesn't have a CDL she hauls horses all over the country (on farm tags)

 

[Truck Shop]

DOT had to put a 150 mile radius for farm, because they knew it would be abused if left
unregulated, just like many of the hotshots. A farmer is exempt as long as hauling his own
commodities, I don't know or never heard of hauling grain to a elevator 150 miles out. But
rules change past the 100 mile radius for general freight on log requirements. Most of it
goes back to CFV covered farm vehicle, and has to do with under 26,001 or over, those can
run just about anywhere, 26,003 moves into 150 radius. The main thing is carrying proof
what's on the trailer is directly related to the farm the truck belongs to. Because a farmer
is not allowed to haul for hire.
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But Different states, different laws. Having a day cab will do nothing for you, if your a long
ways out and get pulled in they can ask for log to show on duty time, reason--the name
of your farm and town you hail from also has to be on the door. They will ask for bill of ladings
{which even hauling your own stuff your suppose to have} looking for time stamps. But if
you cross a scale early on, your plate/tag and DOT number were read and recorded as rolled
across scale. They can enter that, your time dated scale crossing comes up, you can't hide.
And states bordering each other share that info, It can figure your average mph in that time
frame, and if over a ticket could be issued.
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The simplest--license as a business not a farm, yes it will cost more dollars. But driving around
wondering isn't a good way.

 

[Junkyard]

Do you know anybody with interstate authority you could lease to? That way you’re good to go anywhere and would be legal to do so. It could be as simple as paying them whatever it costs to tag and insure your rig and maybe a little extra for their trouble.

I’ve never been bothered with the farm trucks but I don’t use them much and everything I’m hauling is clearly farm related, I don’t go far and I also know any of the DOT officers in my area so even if they did stop me it would probably be a quick convo.

 

[Truck Shop]

Do you know anybody with interstate authority you could lease to?

There are regulatory risks involved for both parties, a search explains.

 

[Junkyard]

To me it wouldn’t be any different than a carrier leasing an owner operator.

 

[Truck Shop]

To me it wouldn’t be any different than a carrier leasing an owner operator.

Except there is the thing of profit revenue involved, I personally don't know any that would
be willing to carry a leaser that wasn't tied to company profit platform. There might be but
normally a lease is tied to operating within that company, and not sure their insurance
would go along with it. Freight/transport insurance can be fickled, would probably have to
carry own insurance. If anything happened it could threaten their authority, because using
their DOT number ties them to anything. Ton's of grey area.

 

[fastline]

No, I don't want anything messy like tying with another company or something. I won't be hauling anything for profit.

 

[Junkyard]

No, I don't want anything messy like tying with another company or something. I won't be hauling anything for profit.

Based on that the only legit way to remove as much liability as possible and run as legal as possible is a legit for hire interstate DOT # and the accompanying insurance. Anything else opens you to various forms of liability and regulatory oversight.

 

[Truck Shop]

Based on that the only legit way to remove as much liability as possible and run as legal as possible is a legit for hire interstate DOT # and the accompanying insurance. Anything else opens you to various forms of liability and regulatory oversight.

Absolutely correct.

 

[fastline]

Lol, and I'm over here trying to find free load boards to just solve this month's problems. I swear I hate trucking with a passion. I tried Uship several weeks ago. Like wow, if you want to bend over, they gotchew with the lube!

I certainly won't get this solved this week so I will keep working to find some locals to fill the gap.

 

[oarwhat]

With Uship I found out you have to turn down the bids. Then they'll start going lower and lower. Give it a try. Some of those shippers are real doosies, but have always got it done for me.

 

[bam1968]

In Iowa I am pretty sure you can run anywhere in the state with farm tags and up to 150 air miles if you cross state lines. 150 air miles could equal 200 road miles pretty easy alot of times. If crossing state lines you would need a trip permit for that state to be legal. As far as justifying ownership goes there is alot more to it than just the purchase price of the truck and trailer(s). In my opinion you need to be able to do most of the repairs yourself. If you have to send them to a shop to get worked on you will soon find out that writing a check to have your stuff hauled might not be too bad. Just my $.02