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Yoader Questions

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rayb

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Yoaders are uncommon here in BC as we seem to default to grapple yarding in most steep locations. It seems that they would have a place in some of our odd corners or smaller patches, but there really isn't a lot of info about them on the web. Acme has a lot of photos on their website, but i've been unable to find any video of them working. ( short snippets are on Axmen Season 1, but they're not very encouraging)

I'm trying to get information on the following: Expected daily production, optimal yarding distance, maximum piece size, one or two guys in the woods. Are they still able to hoechuck with the lines on the drums, or are they best to be a landing based machine. Dropline carriage or mechanized carriage. How are they for yarding downhill? Any other info would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I've ran a few yoaders here in northern ca,about 4 or5 years ago,but seem to remember logging out as far as 700 or 800 feet in special circumstances.but out to 600 a lot.the last one that I ran would pull as hard as you were willing to take it without guylines,I pulled 40" redwood long logs (talk about biting the seat).1 or2 guys in the brush usually.the outfit I worked for had a little acme carriage,an eagle grapple,but I really only ran it with the christy carriage,so much simpler and you only need enough lift to get the cholera back.Production wise it all depends on the unit,timber,and crew,but they are very fast.I never downhilled with it but it was capable of it.for videos try jewel/paladin(i think) or eagle carriages(eagle claw) .As for logging with the lines on the drum,there's no problem.We would just drop the blocks off the heel rack and suck the whole package (blocks,carriage) up onto the drums and off we'd go.
 
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Scott S

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I own a 300 Kobelco Yoder, hoechucker got most of it. We used a small Acme and electronic chokers for a few years but then switched to a light shotgun carriage with a couple of chokers. The toughest part of Yoder logging is getting the mainline out to the back, with no haywire it's all done by hand but we did have several sections on a skidder in some instances. We down hill highleaded with it a bit and it worked okay, I just put the haulback drum in high and feathered the other and we got the job done. The drums will hold 1450' of 5/8 put we learned quickly thats to much, 800 feet worked best for us. We started using 200' sections of 5/8 Ultrex for extensions especially if you had to go uphill with the mainline across a draw.

It is surprising how fast they can be, and how hard you can pull. IF you can't pull any harder with the winches you can boom down pick up the slack and pick the boom back up.(think Marlin fishing).....

BTW, mine is for sale....

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rayb

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Are there any loggers in BC, Washington or Oregon running a Yoder or Timbermaster,working this coming week that would allow me to come down from Vancouver Island and watch their show for the day. I'm a little leary of buying one when i haven't even seen them running yet! Thanks
 
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Plebeian

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In NZ there are numerous small areas about to be harvestable. The areas are usually steep and often not large enough to justify the large forestry crew with a large hauler and multiple excavator/ specialist tracked loaders/ processors etc.

The 'Harvestline' has been around for a number of years. There are a few videos on youtube. One video has a Hitachi with a John Deere skidder to clear the logs.
http://youtu.be/5nYC7SwpA9c (EMS/ Rotorua NZ)
http://youtu.be/v9xRpNDNdmo (3 drum with interlock)
 
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rayb, i have a customer running a timbermaster in northern oregon if you are serious he would probably let you come watch. he has had the machine about two months and it seems to me to be the absolute perfect fit for his job, 1000 feet and less corridor thinning, very fast and strong...pm me if you are interested.....................theironoracle
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looking for timbermaster to buy!! anyone know of any for sale not in machinerytrader or mylittlesalesman or loggersworld?..............the sooner the better..............theironoracle
 
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Elkcreeklogging

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Scott S said:
I own a 300 Kobelco Yoder, hoechucker got most of it. We used a small Acme and electronic chokers for a few years but then switched to a light shotgun carriage with a couple of chokers. The toughest part of Yoder logging is getting the mainline out to the back, with no haywire it's all done by hand but we did have several sections on a skidder in some instances. We down hill highleaded with it a bit and it worked okay, I just put the haulback drum in high and feathered the other and we got the job done. The drums will hold 1450' of 5/8 put we learned quickly thats to much, 800 feet worked best for us. We started using 200' sections of 5/8 Ultrex for extensions especially if you had to go uphill with the mainline across a draw.

It is surprising how fast they can be, and how hard you can pull. IF you can't pull any harder with the winches you can boom down pick up the slack and pick the boom back up.(think Marlin fishing).....

BTW, mine is for sale....

300_drums.jpg
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Does yours still happen too be for sale?
Thanks
Ross Fitchett
Elk creek contracting
 
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Everybody thinks a yoder is worth gold still. It's not 2017 anymore. If it were me I'd just buy a damn 071 and be done with it.
 
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