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What's your hoe doing?

The Peej

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I understand that all locks are only a deterrent. The pros can defeat anything! Ad NH575E said, I will use a double key deadbolt.

I actually was at a local home depot picking up some spray foam for the windows, and was shocked to see that they didn't have a single double key set in stock.

I understand that someone could break the glass and climb thru. Once inside they could open the garage doors. Hell, it would be even easier for them to drive a vehicle thru the garage doors. I do intend to put a decal on the glass so that you cannot simply look thru and take inventory. For the same reason, the 3 windows are mounted high.

The one below is the lock I was leaning towards.



Keyed inside and out are rare now because of the safety concern that in an emergency someone like a fire someone could be locked inside. Probably not as big a concern in a barn but not recommended in a house where it would be locked with people inside.
 

Mothranch

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Keyed inside and out are rare now because of the safety concern that in an emergency someone like a fire someone could be locked inside. Probably not as big a concern in a barn but not recommended in a house where it would be locked with people inside.
This is true in America but rare in Europe. I use euro cylinders for all my locks as they’re way more secure for many reasons. Many double keyed locks also won’t allow someone to open the lock if a key is already in the interior side. This offers an extra piece of protection as you place your key in the interior lock when you’re home and no one can enter even if they have a key. It also essentially turns the lock into a thumb turn when you’re home so the safety concern of burning alive by not finding keys is gone.
 

Tinkerer

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I have dead-bolts keyed on both sides.
The key for the interior is never left in the lock. It is always hanging on a drywall screw, in the wall above the top of the door.
I rarely use that key because I always have my truck fob with the house key, on ring in my pocket.
All of my door locks use the same key. That includes the shop door and the deadbolt on it.
I used to rekey my locks myself. It isn't that difficult to do with the proper tools and an assortment of tumbler pins.
I now use kwikset Smart Key deadbolts and door handles with Smart Key locks in them.
They are easy to rekey with nothing more than the Kwickset tool that comes with them.
 

HarleyHappy

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Nothing like having 5 full light doors in your house and 2 in the shop and knocking on wood, not having to worry about getting broke in.
 

Swetz

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I now use kwikset Smart Key deadbolts and door handles with Smart Key locks in them.
They are easy to rekey with nothing more than the Kwickset tool that comes with them.

Now that you mention it, the last time I changed my front door on my house I used this setup. Didn't have to buy 6 or 8 new keys this way. I wasn't a genius tho. I bought a lock and it turned out to be one of those kwickset smart locks...LOL
 

boone

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Great looking shop and floor, Swetz. I've enjoyed every ones pictures and projects in this thread.

Dead bolts will keep a lazy thief away. Several years ago I had a detached garage built where we lived in a semi-rural neighborhood. I had the typical glass man door with dead bolt - keyed exterior and thumb knob on the interior.

One morning not too long after it had been built, I got up one morning to go to work. Wondering in the yard, was a heavy dew that morning, I noticed skinny swerving lines in the yard that led between our house and the shop. I followed them all the way through the backyard into the neighbors yard. It dawned on me that someone had ridden a bicycle through our yard that night. I checked my shop door and sure enough there was a screwdriver or bar impression in the trim beside the door knob. They had tried to jimmy the latch open. If it hadn't been for the dead bolt, which luckily I had locked he would've gotten in. He was looking for an easy target. I heard later that another neighbor, also with a detached garage had a break-in that week (probably that night) and thief had made out with several tools and a carburetor. Right after that, I installed a game cam above the door to catch anyone's picture coming and going. Never had any issues after that.

We later moved, but definitely have no regrets installing a deadbolt.
 

stinky64

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On another note, ran underground power from shop to sugar house yesterday, got sick of running extension cord. Big dig, 35 ft run, 3/4 schedule 40 conduit, 12/2 wire runs 2 led lights and 2 receptacles, GFI protected of course to run jukebox and fan whilst I'm making maple steam. Took longer to "landscape" 2 ft. ditch than running all the electrical stuff. Big operation, forgot to get pictures. Damn.
 

aighead

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Got to love lifting and moving trucks around!

My buddy has some land near Jackson, Ohio, just forest land that he put a shed for camping on. At the end of October he plans to rent an excavator to take some trees down and do some dirt moving. I told him I may be able to bring my backhoe out for a couple days, though I'm not sure I have a way to move it. If I don't have a way to move it it seems likely that getting mine moved out there would be as expensive as renting one locally, and I wouldn't have to worry about wear and tear on mine.

Any suggestions? I'm guessing he doesn't want to rent both an excavator for the week and a backhoe for a couple days. I don't think I want to rent the backhoe for his property work, as I assume it'll be in the 500 buck range. My FIL has a trailer but I'm not sure if he has a truck that'd be good for the distance traveled. I don't know what it would cost to rent a truck that would do it, if I were to take my backhoe? Will I kill myself or others having never towed something so big?
 

Swetz

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She moved a tired Ford F-700 with Lucas Girling brakes

Man, you toggled some memories...or was it nightmares...LOL

The utility that I worked from had probably a thousand trucks with these brakes because ford was selling them cheap. Well, they may have been cheap to buy, but the overall cost was much higher. Those wheel cylinders always leaked! Eventually, we got a supplier that stocked the backing plate as a complete unit and just zapped off the backing plate and replace everything as a unit. When they worked, they worked well tho. Had guys putting brake fluid in the hydro pump too. Air brakes would have been soo much better, but they saved a buck...LOL

You can cage those hydraulic cans, to release the brakes, kinda like air brake chambers if you run the bolt out.
 

Swetz

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My buddy has some land near Jackson, Ohio, just forest land that he put a shed for camping on. At the end of October he plans to rent an excavator to take some trees down and do some dirt moving. I told him I may be able to bring my backhoe out for a couple days, though I'm not sure I have a way to move it. If I don't have a way to move it it seems likely that getting mine moved out there would be as expensive as renting one locally, and I wouldn't have to worry about wear and tear on mine.

Any suggestions? I'm guessing he doesn't want to rent both an excavator for the week and a backhoe for a couple days. I don't think I want to rent the backhoe for his property work, as I assume it'll be in the 500 buck range. My FIL has a trailer but I'm not sure if he has a truck that'd be good for the distance traveled. I don't know what it would cost to rent a truck that would do it, if I were to take my backhoe? Will I kill myself or others having never towed something so big?

My advice....don't offer your machine up. I get that you want to help a friend, but you could also get yourself into a jam. A rented excavator should be able to clear a spot for a shed in short order. I would volunteer to be a ground hand. Surely there will need to be some saw work when clearing trees. You will save him the time of popping in and out of the machine every time a little saw work is needed.
 

NH575E

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My hoe from Wisconsin has been a bit busy today. She moved a tired Ford F-700 with Lucas Girling brakes that will not release and moved a pile of soil to facilitate a foundation layout for my daughter and SIL.
Those stuck brakes are often caused by bad hoses.
 

stinky64

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X2 on the no travel clause, aside from transport issues. What if something breaks while at the property? Not trying to be an A-hole, but as posted here your mechanic skills are limited and you may have to commute back and forth to repair or worse pay someone else. Nice to help out a buddy, but support work like Swetz said is just as important.
 
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