S. Madill, Blacksmith, Founded in 1911 in Nanaimo BC

[Delbert Doerksen]

We have a 68 model and also a 69 model
The 68 model skyline spool is in a different location as the 69. Any reason why they changed that? And according to the machine book, they both had cats in there, the 69 model has a 12v71 now, burning 16 to 20 liters of oil on a 12 hour shift. The 68 model has the 3406b in there, but it's clear they modified the engine mounts to make it fit. Also according to the book they had transmission coolers cooling the torque converter, but the 12v71 that's all missing and just circulates through a rad.

 

[donkey doctor]

Skyline or strawline? Early 09s had strawline out low in the front of the guard. At some point it was changed to a chute in the top of the guard.. Don't know why. Maybe safety? Wouldn't want to be stepping over it when it was tightlined. As best I can remember they always had the torque rad stacked in with the engine rad along with the Wichita WC break rad. Can't recall if they always had the torque coolers. Really testing my memory here. 55 years and a lot of machinery under the bridge. d.d.

 

[Delbert Doerksen]

I hear ya, all good. Love learning from the old timers, lots to learn. The skyline, on the 68 the skyline hydraulic spool is in the rear on the machine, and on the 69, the skyline spool sits right behind the boom.

 

[donkey doctor]

That is something right out of my experience. They must be driven hydraulically ea. I wonder if they are factory or afterthought. I wasn't much involved with 009s for my first years in the plant. Started out in boatyard building boomboats. Then 009 on track about 1971, Moved on to 071 mini spars, grapple yarders then line loaders. then mini grapple yarders. The last 20 or 25 years I was in field service which is where you get into everything they built weather you had a hand in it or not. This included component rebuild and I finished up doing shop maintaince till I retired in 2001. Of course nothing was writ in stone in the plant and you got shifted around as needed. It was a great place to work and I always enjoyed going to work in the morning. Id sure like to see some pictures of your machines if you'd like to post them. Regards d.d.

 

[Delbert Doerksen]

 

[Delbert Doerksen]

That's the 69 we have

 

[Delbert Doerksen]

 

[Delbert Doerksen]

The 68 has the skyline spool mounted here in this last picture. Where as the 69, the skyline spool is mounted behind the boom. Was just curious, I definitely see the 69 has more features then the 68 has for example the 68 does not have air locks for your anchors whereas the 69 does. Also the 68 has a smaller control table inside the operating cab. Little things like that, maybe it's just innovation and improving from year to year

 

[donkey doctor]

You know now seeing the pictures I do remember them. It wasn't till I saw the fairlead below the guyline ring that I twigged. Don't remember ever laying eyes on them again after they left the plant. Per your question. Yes things were always evolving on all our machines. Engineering was always willing to listen to the guys on the floor and the customer to make things easier to build and easier to maintain and repair. Great place to have worked. Check out 009MADILL thread. Not (S Madill blacksmith) thread and if you want it I will spend some time and post it. Regards d.d.

 

[camptramp]

V12-71 GM's were very common in the BC Forest Industry during the 1960's- 1970's in Logging trucks and yarders . A lot of Inline 6 Cummins and Inline 6 GM's were common in the 1950's in Yarders , Loaders , Grade Shovels and Logging Trucks . In the areas I worked in Madill and Skagit Steel Towers in the 1960's were mostly powered by 12-71 Gm's . I have run a 1972 Madill 009 that was powered by an Inline 6 Cat , I've run a 1976 Madill 009 with a 12-71 GM and a 1978 Madill 009 powered by an Inline 6 Cummins .

 

[Hallback]

How interesting
In my opinion they should have stuck with caterpillar.
These 12v71 motors are so deafening and the cats are a lot quieter.
As far as power goes, what does the difference look like?
Those 12v71 are 2 stoke motors and they just don't die lol
I'm not familiar with the d343 motors but I am familiar with the 3406b motors. Are they similar in power and specs, are they both mechanical motors?

But on the contrary, this is where many people foul up with yarders. A Detroit is the best engine you could ever put in a yarder because they make RPM. RPM is what gets turns into the landing quicker. You have plenty of breakout torque with a Detroit but you don't have the RPM that you need with a Cat.

 

[Hallback]

How interesting
In my opinion they should have stuck with caterpillar.
These 12v71 motors are so deafening and the cats are a lot quieter.
As far as power goes, what does the difference look like?
Those 12v71 are 2 stoke motors and they just don't die lol
I'm not familiar with the d343 motors but I am familiar with the 3406b motors. Are they similar in power and specs, are they both mechanical motors?

D343, 1693 & 3406.
Those three engines are all basically the same just first second and third generations.

 

[bccat]

D343, 1693 & 3406.
Those three engines are all basically the same just first second and third generations.

A lot of people don’t know this, but first Gen of Cat overhead valve design was a D337 F, 1955-60, the D337 had a supercharger, F had a turbo, rebuilt a few of them. Madill used a Finning modified 1693’s ,9L- xxxx , 65B series engines. 3406 engines are different in that the cam is driven from the front gear train,with one cam. D337, 343, 1693 has two cams driven from the rear gear train . 3406 Fuel injection pump is on the left side of block, the earlier engines on the right. The early engines were known for cracked heads, sure could roll coal

 

[bccat]

The D343 is a powerhouse of an engine. I believe they began life as power for D8 & D9's.
i was around a 65 ft tugboat that had 4 343's that were coupled to 2 shafts and props and could pull like nobodies business. They were also in trucks, but with many of the cast iron components shed to lighten the package.

D343‘s were not used in D8 ‘s, D9’s, D8’s had D342, D9’s had D353, D343 were used in 988A, 983, 657,769 haul trucks my favorite series of Cat engines. Jaypaydirt on you tube has a few of them

 

[Delbert Doerksen]

Anyone have contacts for new parts or used parts for the 009 Madills? Always looking for parts. Yesterday the little gear that sits behind the drag clutch, a tooth broke off.

 

[Hallback]

Call Jim Ramsey in Chehalis.
You just missed it as a few weeks ago as a 009 was given away for free

 

[Plebeian]

Madill Equipment (FB post)19th August, 2024.

JOIN THE JOURNEY
Next month, we'll be in B.C. filming a short documentary on Madill.
We'd love to hear from past owners of Madill equipment, people who have had a strong connection with the brand, and contractors who currently operate a Madill. If you'd like to be involved in any capacity, whether it's operational footage or interviews, reach out via private message today.
Know someone who may be a good fit? Give them a tag below

 

[Hallback]

I've spoken with the team about it and unfortunately it doesn't line up with my schedule but it would have been neat to get up there with them

 

[Plebeian]

Madill Equipment (Facebook) posted picture of 3000B log loader. (and Butt-n-Top grapple)

 

[64Pacific]

DC Equipment now building Madill log loaders in Prince George

The new manufacturing facility is expected to create 20 direct and indirect jobs

www.princegeorgecitizen.com