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Question what is your business worth?

lake side bob

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The question is what is your small business worth.

You have been in business for what, 20 years, 30 years, and it has been hard to make a living and pay all the expenses given the competition out there.

You have grown old, your knees hurt, the strength of your youth has gone, all that muscle mass that was on your upper body, shoulders and arms is now around your waste, and it’s not muscle.

You have learned a lot about the excavation business, a wealth of knowledge paid for by the school of hard knocks.

So you are thinking what is this business you have built is worth, what can I get out of it for my old age support.

Couple of ways to look at it.

We all know the stock market, per stock share price based on a multiple of the firm’s earnings equals the firm’s value.

You may think my firm is worth 15 times profit, Big Wrong.

Small excavation firms sell for an average of 2.5 times Sellers Discretionary Earnings (SDE), that is adjusted profit.
* Note that SDE includes owners wages.

Small owner operator firms called main street businesses, those that have profits of up to $2 million, yes, a small business with profits of up to $2 million is considered a main street small business. They have on average an earnings multiplier of 2.5. An example your firm has a profit over several years of say $200,000, then 2.5 times equals $500,000. I know very few small excavators that have a profit after expenses of $200,000, I used that number only for an example.

The profit of small firms is adjusted by business brokers to arrive at what is called Sellers Discretionary Earnings (SDE), look it up on the internet to understand what it is, it is not that complicated.

I have read several business broker information sheets, booklets and found this interesting piece of information for all the various kinds of small businesses, not just excavation firms.

SDE Multiple Business Value

$50,000 1.0 – 1.25 $50,000 - $62,500

$75,000 1.1 – 1.8 $82,500 - $135,000

$100,000 2.0 – 2.7 $200,000 - $270,000

$200,000 2.5 – 3.0 $500,000 - $600,000

$500,000 3.0 – 4.0 $1,500,000 - $2,000,000

$1,000,000 3.25 – 4.25 $3,250,000 - $4,250,000

Did you notice that your firm’s equipment and real estate is worth more than its financial business value.

The thing that prevents someone from purchasing a small excavation business is that the buyer needs to have a reasonable return on investment after paying the debt service on the acquisition and paying himself a reasonable salary for his efforts in running the newly acquired business.

The profit is just not there year in and year out. Good years and bad years.

We all know that our equipment was acquired over time, in fact over many years, and to purchase it all at once at its current market or auction value is just not possible, the mortgage payments would sink the business.

The business buyer knows that also, after they look at the purchase numbers and do some figuring.

Someone who has the cash to pay you for your market value of equipment and real estate is business savvy and will want a return on their investment, that they could get investing elsewhere.

I remember several years ago there were conversations, articles in business magazines about employees purchasing the business from the owner, that did not make any logic, I have not seen any of those articles for some time.

To sell an excavation business it needs to have a healthy profit adjusted to (SDE) numbers, in my area I doubt if there is even one excavation firm that would sell as an ongoing business.

The value of a small owner operator excavation firm is the value of the market or auction value of equipment and tools, plus any real estate.

So best keep the equipment in good condition; so it has top market value.

One could sell off a piece of equipment at a time and just downsize overtime into retirement.

One other item I want to mention is that contractors throw around what their equipment fleet is value at. So many contractors use brand new equipment prices, attempting to impress the person they are speaking to.

From one of the equipment magazines, they explained what “estimated replace value” “ERV” is, it is the amount that the firm would need to spend to replace its construction assets at the present time (like kind equipment replacement based upon its current age and condition. ERV is not the cost to replace your fleet with new equipment.

It is freezing here January 23, 2026 while looking through the various posts on the forum and I decided to contribute some of my 2 cents, hope it is interesting.

What do you think about the value of your firm?
 

materthegreater

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That all sounds reasonable to me. Whenever I've heard people talk about selling a small business with either no employees (just owner or partners) or a few employees (2 or 3 maybe), I can't help but think that the business is essentially the owner and his skill and knowledge and reputation. "Selling" to someone else basically removes anything that makes the business what it is and like you say, what is left is the equipment and real estate. Selling out to an employee seems like a bad deal for the employee most of the time.

It's below freezing here. My 2¢ won't be thawed out until April.
 

MG84

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Whenever I've heard people talk about selling a small business with either no employees (just owner or partners) or a few employees (2 or 3 maybe), I can't help but think that the business is essentially the owner and his skill and knowledge and reputation. "Selling" to someone else basically removes anything that makes the business what it is and like you say, what is left is the equipment and real estate.
This is basically how I view my business. While it makes me a good living, the "business" itself is only worth the sum of its parts. In my case that's a couple new machines, several old machines and some misc tools and supplies.
 

Old Doug

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Its really a deal selling something . We had a small lot that Dad owned we want to sell . It belongs to me my brother and sister. Every thing about it is wrong and not much good about it. I have a good friend he figured out what it was worth. If i could have and had not had to lift a finger or spent a second thinking about it i would have payed something to get rid of it. I look at stuff for sale and wonder how much trouble it was to sell and in the end what did they get out of it. I have some one that wants the lot and was going through the steps to sell it but found out the deed i just got is messed up ??? What is a business worth buy it and find out down the road. The place company i work for just sold out and there are several deals in the town its at going on new business closing it will be interesting to see what happens in the future .
 

CM1995

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I figure my business is worth about 2 billion. However if anyone is interested I’d be willing to let it go for 3 million.

Mine is worth $3B and I am willing to take - right now cash on the barrel - $1.5M. Could be persuaded to take some of that $1.5M in gold and silver.
 

Shimmy1

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That all sounds reasonable to me. Whenever I've heard people talk about selling a small business with either no employees (just owner or partners) or a few employees (2 or 3 maybe), I can't help but think that the business is essentially the owner and his skill and knowledge and reputation. "Selling" to someone else basically removes anything that makes the business what it is and like you say, what is left is the equipment and real estate. Selling out to an employee seems like a bad deal for the employee most of the time.

It's below freezing here. My 2¢ won't be thawed out until April.

I know of a few truckers that divorced. The wife insisted they put a value on "the business". They all said F that, the "business" is worth what my trucks, trailers, pickup, and tools are worth. They said if you don't let me walk with my truck, I'll call the auctioneer tomorrow. Peddle things off, I'll take my half, go buy another truck, and I'm back in business. True stories. Your description about the "business" isn't a business without the owner, it's just a collection of parts.
 

Welder Dave

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It still comes down to what someone is willing to pay. What reputation does the owner and the business have? How well is the equipment looked after? How much competition is in the area? A lot of times the owners of a business have an unrealistic value they think it's worth. Other times owners are very happy liquidating all their equipment at auction. Some just want out either because there isn't enough work or it's too hard to make a decent living or it's a just PIA running a business. A lot of people prefer to just be employee's so they don't have to deal with all the BS of trying to run a business.
 

cuttin edge

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Rumor has it an offer was made to buy this company. They weren't interested in the equipment, just the name. More or less to put it out of business. The offer was rejected and so the job of smothering us out has begun. So far they have under bid us on almost every job that has come out so far this year. We have some work leftover from last year. And a shoreline protection job they got before the new year, but it's shaping up to be a private work kind of summer
 

smifwal

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Well that's how those big companies work I say selling my name and keep the equipment start a business and cousin Ed's name and keep on keeping on.

QuickBooks says my business was worth $750K with the projection of being worth 1.1M and that computer program knows nothing about my equipment or my attachments lol
 

cuttin edge

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Well that's how those big companies work I say selling my name and keep the equipment start a business and cousin Ed's name and keep on keeping on.

QuickBooks says my business was worth $750K with the projection of being worth 1.1M and that computer program knows nothing about my equipment or my attachments lol
This company has been individual business since 1945. It's into the 4th generation. When I started there were times they had to borrow from the bank to make the first few payrolls of the season. Pretty good shape now. The last 6 or 7 years have been great. They employ around 160 people at peak season. The other paving company in the area were really small about 15 employees. Ran mostly junk. Stuck to mostly patching and small driveways. The owner passed away, the son sold to a small excavation company. They have been throwing money into the company for the past 5 years. Newer plant more equipment. Started expanding. We had a verbal agreement with a larger company in the area. We stayed out of their territory they stayed out of ours. New company walks through that agreement, ends up stealing half that companies men. Now they seem to be dead set on snuffing us out. They have picked now I figure as there is not a lot of DOT paving. They have not been able to get all their credentials to be able to bid on dot paving yet and 3 or 4 good dot jobs can make our year. They sweep in and steal 2 large water and sewer jobs, and they are cutting into our bread and butter. Im told they took them pretty cheap so depends how much they can afford to lose
 
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