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Small faceshovel versus smaller conventional excavator

Willie B

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John C. said:
My dad bought a Koehring 405 front shovel in 1958 for use in building logging roads. That didn't work out at all so he installed a set of tongs on the end instead of the bucket for loading logs on trucks. Apparently that didn't work out profitably either because he pulled the shovel front off, installed a 60' crane boom and a clam shell bucket and used it to clear land. That worked until he passed in 1971. The front shovel was displaced by track and wheel loaders. The air tongs were displaced by heel boom loaders with live grapples and the clam shell would have been displaced by hydraulic excavators with thumbs for clearing land. Technology always moves forward in efficiently and displaces what came before.
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In the evolution of machines I'm surprized how far we've come in so few years. My world is rural. No new technology comes here until it is profitable. First excavators came here in 1979 in the aftermath of a flood event when the Federal Government paid to ?dredge? miles of brook beds. Last year the decision came down: There will be NO dredging, even to save life & property.
 
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Willie B said:
In the evolution of machines I'm surprized how far we've come in so few years. My world is rural. No new technology comes here until it is profitable. First excavators came here in 1979 in the aftermath of a flood event when the Federal Government paid to ?dredge? miles of brook beds. Last year the decision came down: There will be NO dredging, even to save life & property.
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Fish are more important than people now.
 
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Willie B said:
Bugs & worms too.
We used to have the end of the Town water line blow off above my house. When the Federal Government mandated we add chlorene, we couldn't blow it in the air any more. It might kill a bug or worm.
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We do it down here all the time. Flush the line and the water runs down hill.

FD flows hydrants where ever the hydrant is located.
 
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CM1995 said:
We do it down here all the time. Flush the line and the water runs down hill.

FD flows hydrants where ever the hydrant is located.
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We do the same here.
One of the benefits of not living in the Northeast...
 
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Our original system was built 1880. Up on Dorset Mountain, two natural springs were used to supply 200 homes, a number of farms, a village. It serves only the densley populated part of two towns.
Amazingly, 115 year old galvanized pipe still functioned until 1996. Nighttime pressure (gravity) reached 250 PSI, it was done to relieve pressure, delay leaks. The end of the system is above my house. Water sprayed 70 feet in the air, and formed a huge ice berg in winter
 
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Our local FD used to flow test whatever hydrants there we’re, that did not run into trouble with flow testing and retention pond or the nut bags. Now according to the Fire Chief for our bunny hugging frog smokers, they aren’t even check most river and pond hydrant’s as the poor fishies might get hurt.
He told me, the one that was put in our ROW turnoff, was tried 2 years ago and it did like 10k in damages to the pumping units.
 
Willie B

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HarleyHappy said:
Our local FD used to flow test whatever hydrants there we’re, that did not run into trouble with flow testing and retention pond or the nut bags. Now according to the Fire Chief for our bunny hugging frog smokers, they aren’t even check most river and pond hydrant’s as the poor fishies might get hurt.
He told me, the one that was put in our ROW turnoff, was tried 2 years ago and it did like 10k in damages to the pumping units.
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Our "NEW" system is NOT intended for fire fighting, no hydrants. We have clean out fixtures accept a 2" fire hose. We do have a great State program helps pay for dry hydrants. Mostly, land owners give rights to draw from ponds & streams. Our tiny two towns have dozens of these hydrants.
 
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HarleyHappy said:
Our local FD used to flow test whatever hydrants there we’re, that did not run into trouble with flow testing and retention pond or the nut bags. Now according to the Fire Chief for our bunny hugging frog smokers, they aren’t even check most river and pond hydrant’s as the poor fishies might get hurt.
He told me, the one that was put in our ROW turnoff, was tried 2 years ago and it did like 10k in damages to the pumping units.
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I suggested to My friend in the local VFD, and who spearheaded putting in dry hydrants,
that maybe for testing, show up with a tanker full, and pressurize the line, to blow the silt away from the intake.
Backflushing as it were.
 
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